kitekrazy Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-leag...-230140565.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Geezus...what a horrible position to take. I do hate the fact ballplayers can't hit for power anymore in most cases, but I'd rather see them flop than get 20 more feet on their fly balls because of pills/gels/liquids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 PEDs rescued baseball after the 94 strike. Hard to deny that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 27, 2015 -> 03:19 AM) PEDs rescued baseball after the 94 strike. Hard to deny that Sadly baseball was rescued by performance enhancing drugs. All those players should have their records STRIPPED. That great home run chase between Sosa and McGwire? Please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 26, 2015 -> 10:33 PM) Sadly baseball was rescued by performance enhancing drugs. All those players should have their records STRIPPED. That great home run chase between Sosa and McGwire? Please. You watched, and marveled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 26, 2015 -> 10:42 PM) You watched, and marveled Indeed. I don't care what anyone says. Late 90's/early 2000's baseball was fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 26, 2015 -> 10:46 PM) Indeed. I don't care what anyone says. Late 90's/early 2000's baseball was fantastic. The entire country dropped what they were doing when Barry Bonds stepped to the plate, now they want to pretend like he didn't exist. C'Mon man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 26, 2015 -> 10:54 PM) The entire country dropped what they were doing when Barry Bonds stepped to the plate, now they want to pretend like he didn't exist. C'Mon man. Exactly. I was just like the rest of the lemmings for a while. Then I just realized recently what an amazing era that was. Other than Giambi getting mvp over Frank in 2000, I got no beef with that era. Sure as hell beats a no-hitter every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 It also makes the pitchers who dominated in that era look even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 QUOTE (almagest @ Sep 29, 2015 -> 10:28 AM) It also makes the pitchers who dominated in that era look even better. Yea, but you have to put them on the suspicion of PED list as well. Roger Clemens..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 29, 2015 -> 10:36 AM) Yea, but you have to put them on the suspicion of PED list as well. Roger Clemens.....Sure, but I don't know if there's ever been a concrete example of steroids helping pitchers as much as they helped hitters. I feel like the extremely offense-heavy nature of the era backs that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 QUOTE (almagest @ Sep 29, 2015 -> 11:34 AM) Sure, but I don't know if there's ever been a concrete example of steroids helping pitchers as much as they helped hitters. I feel like the extremely offense-heavy nature of the era backs that up. You could argue they helped pitchers more, as a big thing steroids do is help you recover more quickly, which is obviously huge for pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 QUOTE (almagest @ Sep 29, 2015 -> 11:34 AM) Sure, but I don't know if there's ever been a concrete example of steroids helping pitchers as much as they helped hitters. I feel like the extremely offense-heavy nature of the era backs that up. I would say Eric Gagne disagrees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Sep 29, 2015 -> 07:29 AM) I was probably 11-12 years old during the 98 HR chase, and it absolutely got me into baseball. I was raised a Sox fan, but 11-12 is when I really started to understand the game better, and adored Sosa and being able to watch those games every night. Without it, I don't know if I would have the passion for baseball that I do now. It's obvious to say PED's are bad and it's certainly hard to endorse, but it's also hard to argue that the game wasn't more entertaining back then. And after all, that's all sports are. That 98 season was incredible tv. I remember my dad, me and my grandpa were glued to the games down the stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Sep 29, 2015 -> 07:29 AM) I was probably 11-12 years old during the 98 HR chase, and it absolutely got me into baseball. I was raised a Sox fan, but 11-12 is when I really started to understand the game better, and adored Sosa and being able to watch those games every night. Without it, I don't know if I would have the passion for baseball that I do now. It's obvious to say PED's are bad and it's certainly hard to endorse, but it's also hard to argue that the game wasn't more entertaining back then. And after all, that's all sports are. I completely agree with everything said here and this is coming from a fan of pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 It was definitely good for the sport at the time and the low scoring now is getting a little absurd. However, in lieu of bringing back PEDs, we should just automate the balls and strikes. Way too many "in the dirt" strikes in the MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 27, 2015 -> 03:54 AM) The entire country dropped what they were doing when Barry Bonds stepped to the plate, now they want to pretend like he didn't exist. C'Mon man. That's because he CHEATED. No Hall of Fame for any of these bums, please. I want success without cheating in my sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Love the game now that it is back to "normal." Normal being what I grew up with in the 70s/80s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 02:35 PM) That's because he CHEATED. No Hall of Fame for any of these bums, please. I want success without cheating in my sports. I agree with this sentiment 100%. As White Sox fans, we should probably all feel this way, seeing as the 2005 White Sox were the one team in that decade without any real steroid abusers (Maybe just Pablo Ozuna) and Frank Thomas lost out the 2000 MVP to the juicebox edition of Jason Giambi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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