southsider2k5 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Chicago White Sox @whitesox 11m11 minutes ago "He's definitely put himself on the map." - Robin on Trayce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 01:58 PM) Matt Spiegel @MattSpiegel670 3h3 hours ago Steve Stone just told us Trayce Thompson should play centerfield at the start of next season. Been saying it all along. His athleticism alone is much more beneficial as a CF. Shift Eaton at LF. Boom.. your outfield defense just got waaaay better next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 04:16 PM) I can squint and see a scenario where Wieters takes a one year deal to try to go back out in 2016 looking for a home run on the free agent market. That is a pretty typical Boras tactic. Agree. Boras clients have done this before. What better place to rebuild value as a hitter than the cell? If he doesn't get a QO, I'd offer him a one-year deal if he's willing to take a deal like that to rebuild value to try again next off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 11:32 PM) Agree. Boras clients have done this before. What better place to rebuild value as a hitter than the cell? If he doesn't get a QO, I'd offer him a one-year deal if he's willing to take a deal like that to rebuild value to try again next off-season. for discussion sake, at what cost for a 1 yr contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 04:14 PM) I don't know, but there are more quality 3B in baseball than there are quality C. Arenado? Frazier? Frazier, and his OPS <.700 the half will probably be on block.> There have got to be some young 3B in the upper levels that we can get for a reasonable price. just do proper scouting and evaluation this time. As for C, Pirates got their C for a bullpen pitcher. Astros got Conger for a bullpen pitcher. He basically sucks, but he sucks less than Flowers. The Sox awful OF defense hurt Samardizja, a fly ball pitcher, more than anyone. Now why the Sox were so hell bent on trading for a fly ball pitcher is another question. Edited September 30, 2015 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 05:56 PM) Frazier, and his OPS <.700 the half will probably be on block.> There have got to be some young 3B in the upper levels that we can get for a reasonable price. just do proper scouting and evaluation this time. As for C, Pirates got their C for a bullpen pitcher. Astros got Conger for a bullpen pitcher. He basically sucks, but he sucks less than Flowers. The Sox awful OF defense hurt Samardizja, a fly ball pitcher, more than anyone. Now why the Sox were so hell bent on trading for a fly ball pitcher is another question. If you catch the ball in the bleachers it is still a home run. Samrdzija was terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 05:50 PM) for discussion sake, at what cost for a 1 yr contract. I'd probably go as high as ten to try to entice him. Or less with incentives. Sounds like a lot but it would just be a one year deal. I also figure they will bring Alexei back cheap and after this year they no longer pay Jeff Keppinger, which was 4.5 each year for last 3. Edited September 30, 2015 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Arenado isn't going anywhere, but he would cost Quintana+ a good prospect or two, no thanks. Say no to Frazier, would cost too much and his performance has fallen off, plus he's not young anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 05:32 PM) Agree. Boras clients have done this before. What better place to rebuild value as a hitter than the cell? If he doesn't get a QO, I'd offer him a one-year deal if he's willing to take a deal like that to rebuild value to try again next off-season. The Cell isn't as big a hitters park as you think, good for HR but not much else. Played middle of the pack this year for offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 07:10 PM) The Cell isn't as big a hitters park as you think, good for HR but not much else. Played middle of the pack this year for offense. Dimension wise it is small. Factor could be our pitching staff despite Shark and our anemic offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 The only freaking player I can think that we thought was going to be a perfect fit to add power at the cell and did was Jim Thome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 05:19 PM) Been saying it all along. His athleticism alone is much more beneficial as a CF. Shift Eaton at LF. Boom.. your outfield defense just got waaaay better next season. Thats what I've been saying as well. Give heyward 10/230 with opt outs at 4 and 6 or trade for the likes of Puig or near major league ready prospects like Nomar Mazara or Lewis Brinson. Eaton - Thompson - Not Garcia is a vast improvement, especially if we can move melky to DH and god willing move LaRoche's dead money. A swap that comes to mind is for Papelbon; LaRoche is familiar to the nats the money is even and they could use the depth, with the rash of injuries and Zimmerman's always questionable health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 07:16 PM) The only freaking player I can think that we thought was going to be a perfect fit to add power at the cell and did was Jim Thome. What about Adam Eaton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 07:16 PM) Dimension wise it is small. Factor could be our pitching staff despite Shark and our anemic offense. Park factor accounts for the quality of your pitching and offense though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 08:33 PM) Park factor accounts for the quality of your pitching and offense though. Exactly my point. It may seem unfriendly but that is more of the quality of our staff and lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 11:07 PM) Exactly my point. It may seem unfriendly but that is more of the quality of our staff and lineup. No I'm saying that the quality of our staff and lineup gave nothing to do with how hitter-friendly the park has played. The stat takes all of that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 11:39 PM) I'd probably go as high as ten to try to entice him. Or less with incentives. Sounds like a lot but it would just be a one year deal. I also figure they will bring Alexei back cheap and after this year they no longer pay Jeff Keppinger, which was 4.5 each year for last 3. but do you think that his agent will allow that??? i want to say no. too much of a gamble of getting hurt or is hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 12:16 AM) The only freaking player I can think that we thought was going to be a perfect fit to add power at the cell and did was Jim Thome. nice post... i didn't think of that. but i also think that they may have thought the same thing may happen again so they went out and sign Dunn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) Earlier in the season, I advocated moving Melky from the 2 hole, to the middle of the order, at least against RHP. That thought was prompted by LaRoche's ineptitude. It seemed to me that he could replace the "black hole," which La Roche's bat represented, at clean up. I was pleasantly surprised when Robin actually did move Melky to the middle of the lineup. Cabrera provided some badly needed run production, from the left side, and had a pretty good run, in that slot. Batting left handed, he put up respectable numbers: .289 .335 .421 (Season Totals) He hit even better, from both sides while hitting 3RD: .313 .342 .497 I don't understand the desire to dump him. He has proven that he can be a run producer, and this team certainly needs more of that. Edited October 1, 2015 by Lillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Back to Trayce. I love the Photog-tweeking of the catch, calling him the "Splash Brother". But beyond that, Trayce might be one of those guys who hits better in the majors than he did in minors. He won't be the first. Kind of the opposite of Avisail. I love his defense, his speed, hustle, youth, power. And back to Lillian's post, I can see Melki hitting DH a lot next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 QUOTE (Lillian @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 01:46 PM) Earlier in the season, I advocated moving Melky from the 2 hole, to the middle of the order, at least against RHP. That thought was prompted by LaRoche's ineptitude. It seemed to me that he could replace the "black hole," which La Roche's bat represented, at clean up. I was pleasantly surprised when Robin actually did move Melky to the middle of the lineup. Cabrera provided some badly needed run production, from the left side, and had a pretty good run, in that slot. Batting left handed, he put up respectable numbers: .289 .335 .421 (Season Totals) He hit even better, from both sides while hitting 3RD: .313 .342 .497 I don't understand the desire to dump him. He has proven that he can be a run producer, and this team certainly needs more of that. ref the defense of the outfield if TT plays. all things being equal, who is the worst outfielder when you compare Avi to Melky??? ref the bold.... thank you. i have been beat that in. to no avail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 07:16 PM) The only freaking player I can think that we thought was going to be a perfect fit to add power at the cell and did was Jim Thome. That's one of my biggest pet peeves. Every offseason I hear about player A or player B and how many more home runs they will hit if they play 81 games in the Cell. And it never happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 01:55 PM) That's one of my biggest pet peeves. Every offseason I hear about player A or player B and how many more home runs they will hit if they play 81 games in the Cell. And it never happens. yeah i know what you mean, i just check that up to the org pr machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 11:25 AM) yeah i know what you mean, i just check that up to the org pr machine. fans say this, not the organization Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 11:25 AM) yeah i know what you mean, i just check that up to the org pr machine. I'd like to hear what organization out there is talking down their players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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