Big Hurtin Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 09:41 AM) His mother stockpiled guns fearing Obama was going to take them. Appears that all the guns were purchased legally. I wonder where she got that idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 07:51 AM) The shooter asked everyone their religious beliefs, but apparently it had nothing to do with who he ended up shooting or not shooting in the end. He also deliberately shot someone in a wheelchair, so there's not much of a pattern here to be seen...even the one witness/hostage who was spared has no clue why he chose him to leave a message for the police. This wasn't one of those cases like in Nairobi, Kenya, two years ago where Somali militants were killing all "infidels" who couldn't quote from the Koran/Quran. From what I read if the people responded 'Christian', he shot them in the head, others he shot more to wound. if that is the case, they yeah, he singled out Christians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 11:10 AM) I wonder where she got that idea. Read it on the internet. Must be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 08:41 AM) His mother stockpiled guns fearing Obama was going to take them. Appears that all the guns were purchased legally. I clicked every link there, and all you have to back that up is one person saying the mom said this. They mention Facebook posts but no links. Have you seen anything to back this up other than hearsay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 11:35 AM) From what I read if the people responded 'Christian', he shot them in the head, others he shot more to wound. if that is the case, they yeah, he singled out Christians. Hard to make out what is really going on here, but it does seem he was pretty anti-religion in general, not to mention pretty messed up in the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 11:46 AM) I clicked every link there, and all you have to back that up is one person saying the mom said this. They mention Facebook posts but no links. Have you seen anything to back this up other than hearsay? Sheriff says they seized 14 guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 10:35 AM) From what I read if the people responded 'Christian', he shot them in the head, others he shot more to wound. if that is the case, they yeah, he singled out Christians. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyathei...to-be-the-case/ Nice try....though. More were interested in science/New Age/mysticism. Only two of the nine could be described as Christian. If he deliberately tried to wound but not kill 78% of the victims, pretty sure we would have heard something by now. Edited October 6, 2015 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 01:41 PM) http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyathei...to-be-the-case/ Nice try....though. More were interested in science/New Age/mysticism. Only two of the nine could be described as Christian. If he deliberately tried to wound but not kill 78% of the victims, pretty sure we would have heard something by now. Nothing like using "the friendly atheist" as a source... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 01:41 PM) http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyathei...to-be-the-case/ Nice try....though. More were interested in science/New Age/mysticism. Only two of the nine could be described as Christian. If he deliberately tried to wound but not kill 78% of the victims, pretty sure we would have heard something by now. Like their methodology. "He liked george Takai, so he wasn't Christian'. Funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 01:26 PM) Sheriff says they seized 14 guns. Can't get the sound here at work, but I wasn't disputing the amount of guns, nut more the motivation behind buying them. In the other links, nothing says that she bought them because she feared confiscation, except one woman who says she said that, and facebook posts they reference but don't link. I am not saying she didn't feel that way, asking if there was proof other than one person's word. And fyi, just about every gun owner thinks confiscation is out there somewhere, because it is. What do you think 'laws like Australia' is code for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 02:32 PM) Can't get the sound here at work, but I wasn't disputing the amount of guns, nut more the motivation behind buying them. In the other links, nothing says that she bought them because she feared confiscation, except one woman who says she said that, and facebook posts they reference but don't link. I am not saying she didn't feel that way, asking if there was proof other than one person's word. And fyi, just about every gun owner thinks confiscation is out there somewhere, because it is. What do you think 'laws like Australia' is code for? I guess my point was this was another situation where the person had access to legally purchased guns (much like the Sandy Hook shooter). More/tougher guns laws doesn't seem to be the answer, although I don't know what is. We don't know who the "bad guys with guns" are until after they've already done something like this. Edited October 6, 2015 by Iwritecode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 01:32 PM) Like their methodology. "He liked george Takai, so he wasn't Christian'. Funny. What evidence is there that Christians were the only ones shot in the head and all others were just wounded/spared? Because of the woman in the wheelchair? There's far from any consistency to this theory across multiple testimonies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 09:24 PM) What evidence is there that Christians were the only ones shot in the head and all others were just wounded/spared? Because of the woman in the wheelchair? There's far from any consistency to this theory across multiple testimonies. I didn't say there was evidence, Isaid I read a story where that was claimed, and IF that was true, they were singled out. I then laughed at your story trying to claim they weren't which used such wonderful logic as 'he like George Takai, so he can't be Christian'. That link didn't disprove anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Several of the shooting victims have needed to set up GoFundMe pages to cover their massive medical bills. https://www.gofundme.com/s75ge9y4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 12:35 PM) From what I read if the people responded 'Christian', he shot them in the head, others he shot more to wound. if that is the case, they yeah, he singled out Christians. I thought it was impossible to shoot to wound, that's why police officers always kill people who they are moderately afraid of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (Jake @ Oct 8, 2015 -> 01:30 PM) I thought it was impossible to shoot to wound, that's why police officers always kill people who they are moderately afraid of When you are standing still, pointing your gun at people you lined up against a wall, sure, you can do it. When you are chasing a suspect down a street at full speed and he stops to shoot at you, not a chance. You aim for center mass. Nice try, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (Jake @ Oct 8, 2015 -> 01:30 PM) I thought it was impossible to shoot to wound, that's why police officers always kill people who they are moderately afraid of lol wut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 08:10 AM) I didn't say there was evidence, Isaid I read a story where that was claimed, and IF that was true, they were singled out. I then laughed at your story trying to claim they weren't which used such wonderful logic as 'he like George Takai, so he can't be Christian'. That link didn't disprove anything. And yet the fact remains that no more than 2 of the 9 victims have been publicly identified by ANY sources as Christian. Logically, he's either really bad at shooting just to injure or there are a whole lot of families hiding under a bushel basket the faith of their loved ones. Edited October 8, 2015 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 8, 2015 -> 03:42 PM) lol wut He's attempting to troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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