GGajewski18 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Daryl Van Schouwen @CST_soxvan 18m18 minutes ago Don't bet on Sale or Quintana trade: 'Our goal to build around them and celebrate a championship with them on White Sox roster,' Hahn said. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Agreed but we all know that it'd take a major haul like what's going on with Jose Fernandez of the Marlins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 06:23 PM) Agreed but we all know that it'd take a major haul like what's going on with Jose Fernandez of the Marlins. More than what Fernandez would net the Marlins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Would it be wrong for me to say that Sale is the most valuable pitching asset on the trade market when you factor in his age and salary/contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 06:27 PM) Would it be wrong for me to say that Sale is the most valuable pitching asset on the trade market when you factor in his age and salary/contract? By far and its not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 06:28 PM) By far and its not even close. Its funny because Quintana is probably the closest behind Sale with his numbers and extra year of control over Sale. Edited December 8, 2015 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 06:27 PM) Would it be wrong for me to say that Sale is the most valuable pitching asset on the trade market when you factor in his age and salary/contract? http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2015-trade-...-the-full-list/ Fangraphs has him as the #1 pitcher in trade value, followed by Archer, Cole, Gray, and Bumgarner. Quintana is the 14th pitcher on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 04:12 AM) http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2015-trade-...-the-full-list/ Fangraphs has him as the #1 pitcher in trade value, followed by Archer, Cole, Gray, and Bumgarner. Quintana is the 14th pitcher on the list. and in my biggest opinion, i really think the sox should start of extending his contract for an additional 5 yr and pay him and tie him up. Q is 14.... i really didn't see that one coming. good for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 If Hahn did plan on extending Sale, what kind of contract would he give him? 7 years and $150 million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 09:30 PM) If Hahn did plan on extending Sale, what kind of contract would he give him? 7 years and $150 million? Likely more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 04:32 AM) Likely more Like 60 mil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 09:30 PM) If Hahn did plan on extending Sale, what kind of contract would he give him? 7 years and $150 million? Maybe if they could re-work his contract so he makes decent amount more each year the remainder of the current contract and then bought more free agent years on top of it. He has no reason to do them any favors though. Edited December 8, 2015 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 04:30 AM) If Hahn did plan on extending Sale, what kind of contract would he give him? 7 years and $150 million? start off on 20, 23, 28, 30, 33. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 09:34 PM) Maybe if they could re-work his contract so he makes decent amount more each year the remainder of the contract and then bought more free agent years on top of it. I really like that idea. Maybe they could give him $5 million more a year if he agrees to extend his deal through 2021 or 2022. Good thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 04:34 AM) Maybe if they could re-work his contract so he makes decent amount more each year the remainder of the current contract and then bought more free agent years on top of it. He has no reason to do them any favors though. no offense, but that i do not believe will happen. he will get his money... if he waits and no raises. starting at 30 mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I still have this slight hope in my mind that Sale could be a White Sox lifer, but I'm not counting on it. It'd be awesome if it happened though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 04:37 AM) I still have this slight hope in my mind that Sale could be a White Sox lifer, but I'm not counting on it. It'd be awesome if it happened though. same here, it like have always wanted mark burlhe to be a lifer.... money and shortsightedness on the owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 09:35 PM) no offense, but that i do not believe will happen. he will get his money... if he waits and no raises. starting at 30 mil. Oh yeah I know know it won't happen. That would be the only chance. We've been terrible, he took low pay once from us, no reason for him to do us any favors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 09:38 PM) same here, it like have always wanted mark burlhe to be a lifer.... money and shortsightedness on the owners. No offense to Buehrle, but from a pure talent standpoint, I believe that Sale is much, much better. I'd go as far as to say that Sale is one of the best pitchers to ever wear a White Sox uniform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 09:39 PM) No offense to Buehrle, but from a pure talent standpoint, I believe that Sale is much, much better. I'd go as far as to say that Sale is one of the best pitchers to ever wear a White Sox uniform. Yeah Sale is much better than Buehrle but Buehrle was still loved here and very consistent. Plus I loved that Buehrle's starts would be around 2 hours (went to a game once that ended up being about an hour 40 mins haha) Edited December 8, 2015 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 04:39 AM) No offense to Buehrle, but from a pure talent standpoint, I believe that Sale is much, much better. I'd go as far as to say that Sale is one of the best pitchers to ever wear a White Sox uniform. be careful there.... know your sox pitchers and sox history. with that general ref there would have to have some stipulation and parameters to make an list of who qualifies. but i am like you at this time. he is a true #1 elite sp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 04:43 AM) Yeah Sale is much better than Buehrle but Buehrle was still loved here and very consistent. Plus I loved that Buehrle's starts would be around 2 hours (went to a game once that ended up being about an hour 40 mins haha) he was a bull dog and didn't take s***e when he was on the mound. just like sandy koufax... edit... i really like pitchers who has an edge... last yr with kc sale and yeah even shark. man i can't remember the pitcher who told ron karkovice to take his fat arse back to homeplate. he is pitching this game. Edited December 8, 2015 by LDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I think if the Sox were to re-work a Sale contract, it would be next offseason and it would be to buy out more FA years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 09:45 PM) be careful there.... know your sox pitchers and sox history. with that general ref there would have to have some stipulation and parameters to make an list of who qualifies. but i am like you at this time. he is a true #1 elite sp. At least for me, it's hard to compare Sale to the old timers (Walsh, Lyons, Faber, etc) because I never saw those guys play. Not to mention that the game was completely different back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 02:21 PM) At least for me, it's hard to compare Sale to the old timers (Walsh, Lyons, Faber, etc) because I never saw those guys play. Not to mention that the game was completely different back then. but that was the beauty of talking baseball on the street corner and talking about the greats on your team. in the heat of a summer day, waiting for someone to turn on the fire hydrant and talking baseball. but then again all i talk was smack and how the sox would kick the northside arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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