fathom Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Oct 8, 2015 -> 03:59 AM) Short of making a Donaldson-esque trade, there's nothing the Sox can do to drastically become a 2016 WS contender. The Cubs winning the WS may make the FO more determined, but it's not like there are that many available players who could actually improve our team. Great post, it's not like Cubs winning would cause JR to spend a ton this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (lord chas @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 08:55 PM) Pirates had their chances did not capitalize That double play ball with the bases loaded and one out was essentially the game ender. These two Wild Card games have been about as exciting as those old Johnny Bench krylon paint commercials. It's just not going to happen every year. Can't be forced. And, in baseball, there tend to be more interesting and surprising series in the post-season than turkey/lemon games that are complete blowouts in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Go Cardinals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 10:00 PM) Great post, it's not like Cubs winning would cause JR to spend a ton this offseason. Spend a ton on what? You didn't get the meaning of my post. This is a very unattractive FA class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Wonder if we see a best of 3 Wild Card next year after what happened this year. I wouldn't be in favor of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 10:01 PM) You're so progressive. You seem really enlightened. He's close to getting demoted to troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Well this game sucked, lol. Oh well, go Cards, Mets, Blue Jays and Astros! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Yeah, these wild card games were such a letdown compared to last year's. The KCR/OAK game was incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Oct 8, 2015 -> 04:02 AM) Spend a ton on what? You didn't get the meaning of my post. This is a very unattractive FA class. I agreed with your post. Just saying Cubs winning wouldn't make JR decided to spend 180 million on Price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Hopefully the Cubs and Dodgers make it to the NLCS so I can watch Kershaw or Greinke dominate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 F the Cardinals and Cubs. Worst series ever in terms of rooting interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 10:03 PM) Wonder if we see a best of 3 Wild Card next year after what happened this year. I wouldn't be in favor of that I like the 1 game format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 09:00 PM) Great post, it's not like Cubs winning would cause JR to spend a ton this offseason. Therein lies the problem. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Except that doesn't work very well in baseball. In fact, the troubling "other side of the coin" is that a Cubs' World Series win would "force" the White Sox to respond somehow and it would end up crippling the franchise more (taking on a huge contract like Heyward, for example)...or dealing Quintana and getting the equivalents of Matt Davidson/Nestor Molina back in return, instead of Adam Eaton or Carlos Quentin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxjr27 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Fans on Clark St are making me sick. Bandwagon freaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 10:04 PM) I agreed with your post. Just saying Cubs winning wouldn't make JR decided to spend 180 million on Price. You say you agree but I sense sarcasm. Anyway, yeah, there's Price/Cueto/Heyward, but I highly doubt we go after them regardless of how the Cubs do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 BTW, what the Sox need to do is stop performing patch work. They need to do a full on rebuild with someone other than Kenny and IMO, other than Hahn and their current scouts. Clean house, built it correct. Problem is, they've already taken like 2 or 3 years building it wrong. Any FAs you sign should be either cheap scrapheap guys or people you intend on flipping at the deadline. Stay the course regardless of what fans say. You have to. Otherwise, pull a Yankees and buy the best players either in trades or elsewhere. Trot out a lineup of: Eaton Cabrera Cespedes Gonzalez Abreu Frazier Kendrick Ramirez Castro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ Oct 8, 2015 -> 03:07 AM) Fans on Clark St are making me sick. Bandwagon freaks. Ha that's so stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Oct 8, 2015 -> 03:08 AM) You say you agree but I sense sarcasm. Anyway, yeah, there's Price/Cueto/Heyward, but I highly doubt we go after them regardless of how the Cubs do. 100 pct honest I was going to post something similar but caulfields post was too long for me to want to quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 10:09 PM) BTW, what the Sox need to do is stop performing patch work. They need to do a full on rebuild with someone other than Kenny and IMO, other than Hahn and their current scouts. Clean house, built it correct. Problem is, they've already taken like 2 or 3 years building it wrong. Any FAs you sign should be either cheap scrapheap guys or people you intend on flipping at the deadline. Stay the course regardless of what fans say. You have to. Otherwise, pull a Yankees and buy the best players either in trades or elsewhere. Trot out a lineup of: Eaton Cabrera Cespedes Gonzalez Abreu Frazier Kendrick Ramirez Castro They arent going to go with a full rebuild. Jerry would fire whoever brings that up before it starts this year. Pretty obvious they have to go for it. They dont have a choice. Now maybe if it doesnt go right then yeah. But not in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxjr27 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 10:09 PM) Ha that's so stupid It's just they are jumping up and down saying they deserve this. Hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Ok now they're just on equal footing with the rest of the NL playoff teams, except now they can't use Arrieta Game 1. Not sure what the point of having him go 9 innings was, you were up 4 and you're going to need him again, and he's already pitched 60 more innings than he ever has in a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 09:57 PM) Wouldn't it have to go from 20% (5 teams) to 25%, 4 teams? 12.5% would be the chance of any of the 8 remaining teams winning it all, if all things were equal (which they're not, since the Wild Card teams sacrifice one start from their ace in the Division Series). It's telling that White Sox fans are more excited hoping for the Cubs to lose (myself included) than actually excited about our own team over the last 4-6 weeks, but it is what it is. Honestly, with how bad things have gotten...maybe some additional suffering in the form of the Cubs winning the World Series might finally wake up someone at 35th and Shields to the reality of the situation. Like most, they're probably counting on the Cubs somehow being cursed or blowing this thing. There's certainly no guarantee that will happen, not when you have a young team that doesn't care about what has happened in the past and just kind of shrugs like high school students do when you talk about the 1960's when they only care about the latest computer game, iphone, ipad, etc. If it didn't happen in their lifetime, the players often aren't aware, even of icons like Ernie Banks, Fergie Jenkins, Billy Williams, and gasp, Ron Santo. That's what I thought at first, but it's not really correct. The odds of you reaching the World Series if you make the division series is 1/4 (25%). The odds of a Wild Card team making the divisional series is 1/2. It's a simple and statement. Odds of reaching the World Series from the DS x the odds of making the DS = 25% x 50% or 12.5% Cut that in half and that's their chances of winning the world series. Now that the Cubs have beaten the Pirates, their chances have doubled. Even if all things aren't even, they have increased significantly the chances of them reaching and winning the world series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 10:09 PM) BTW, what the Sox need to do is stop performing patch work. They need to do a full on rebuild with someone other than Kenny and IMO, other than Hahn and their current scouts. Clean house, built it correct. Problem is, they've already taken like 2 or 3 years building it wrong. Any FAs you sign should be either cheap scrapheap guys or people you intend on flipping at the deadline. Stay the course regardless of what fans say. You have to. Otherwise, pull a Yankees and buy the best players either in trades or elsewhere. Trot out a lineup of: Eaton Cabrera Cespedes Gonzalez Abreu Frazier Kendrick Ramirez Castro For all the broken record comments I get, I have ACTUALLY been broken recording this for a long time. The Sox need a complete rebuild and there is no good reason not to rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Oct 8, 2015 -> 04:13 AM) For all the broken record comments I get, I have ACTUALLY been broken recording this for a long time. The Sox need a complete rebuild and there is no good reason not to rebuild. Absolutely there is. You have 3 potential aces on your roster for very cheap. Could be a long time before you get one pitcher as good as any of the big 3. It's not like sox have contracts that will cripple them the next 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 10:05 PM) F the Cardinals and Cubs. Worst series ever in terms of rooting interest +1. As much as I don't want the Cubs to advance, it's getting quite boring seeing the damn Cardinals in the NLCS every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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