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Sox got back almost nothing from break up of 2012 squad


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I posted this mostly just to see what happened with that 2012 veteran club.

 

Whether the Sox could have done a lot better trading on those assets is fair discussion. The fact is that we got next to nothing back, and that is a big reason why the Sox are currently in an untenable position. No money to invest in free agents. No position players ever come up from the minors and amount to cornerstone players. The only tradeable assets left at the moment are members of the pitching staff that the Sox have done well to build. Plus, a manager that isn't helping the team. And a front office conflicted between what Rick Hahn and Kenny Williams might want to do.

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Certain teams have gotten deals that don't happen to everyone. I don't see any valid points of this OP thread. No one has a crystal ball when it comes to trading players at their highest value. At some point how long do you trade anyone who is good in hopes that getting younger and good shows up?

Prospects are the highest risk to trade for in this organization.

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QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Oct 10, 2015 -> 03:04 PM)
No I meant 2012. AJ had hit the fountain of youth somehow and Rios had a fluke year. Other than that looks like garbage to me.

Wasn't a fluke year for Rios, he's had multiple seasons like that.

 

Pierzynski, Konerko, Ramirez, Viciedo, De Aza, Rios, and Dunn all had good years. How is that "terrible"?

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QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Oct 10, 2015 -> 01:04 PM)
No I meant 2012. AJ had hit the fountain of youth somehow and Rios had a fluke year. Other than that looks like garbage to me.

 

So by "the position players were terrible in 2012," you meant "while the position players were very good in 2012, in the future they would eventually be garbage."

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QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Oct 10, 2015 -> 02:28 PM)
DeAza garbage. Viciedo garbage. Youk. Beckham. 36 year old Konerko. Adam Dunn hit .204. Couple guys had unexpectedly good years and the position players were still 16th in WAR.

 

I can do this too.

 

De Aza was worth 2.7 WAR. Youkilis put up a .771 OPS with the Sox. Konerko yet another .850 OPS season. Adam Dunn hit 41 home runs, good for 6th best in White Sox history. Rios good for 3.9 WAR. AJ had his best season as a baseball player. #4 team in the AL in runs scored.

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QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Oct 10, 2015 -> 04:28 PM)
DeAza garbage. Viciedo garbage. Youk. Beckham. 36 year old Konerko. Adam Dunn hit .204. Couple guys had unexpectedly good years and the position players were still 16th in WAR.

You lost credibility right off the bat. Look at their stats and then try and back this up.

 

Notice I didn't include Youk and Beckham because they were the two players who I did not think have good years.

 

Konerko was 36, so what? Still put up good numbers.

Dunn hit .204, but had 41 HRs and drew 105 walks. That's what we signed him to do.

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