Sox have asked Indians about Sandy Alomar Jr

[caulfield12]

Why would Alomar want to manage the White Sox unless their roster gives him at least the opportunity to compete?

 

I'd rather disprove the theory that Dave Martinez can't manage first. How many times has he interviewed or suppposedly been a top candidate during the past decade?

[Boopa1219]

Brandon Hyde/Bo Porter #2016

[Bigsoxhurt35]

Seems like it could be Renteria

 

 

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/11/03/lev...ox-bench-coach/

Edited November 4, 2015 by SouthSideSale

[caulfield12]

Much like the Cubs did before hiring Renteria, the White Sox want a baseball man who has a great resume. Part of the requirements would be a bench coach who would speak fluently to both the English- and Spanish-speaking players in the organization. The White Sox have used translator-media relations assistant Billy Russo to help with communication with Spanish-speaking players over the past two seasons.

 

The front office finally came to the conclusion that a top Spanish-speaking figure was needed. The new bench coach will help with the day-to-day communication with all the players and members of the staff.

 

The White Sox interviewed former player Raul Ibanez near the end of the 2015 season for a coaching position. They also reached out to Indians first-base coach coach Sandy Alomar Jr., who thanked the White Sox but declined an interview.

 

 

 

 

Now experience and communication skills are suddenly important?

Edited November 4, 2015 by caulfield12

[LDF]

Much like the Cubs did before hiring Renteria, the White Sox want a baseball man who has a great resume. Part of the requirements would be a bench coach who would speak fluently to both the English- and Spanish-speaking players in the organization. The White Sox have used translator-media relations assistant Billy Russo to help with communication with Spanish-speaking players over the past two seasons.

 

The front office finally came to the conclusion that a top Spanish-speaking figure was needed. The new bench coach will help with the day-to-day communication with all the players and members of the staff.

 

The White Sox interviewed former player Raul Ibanez near the end of the 2015 season for a coaching position. They also reached out to Indians first-base coach coach Sandy Alomar Jr., who thanked the White Sox but declined an interview.

 

 

 

 

Now experience and communication skills are suddenly important?

 

again, the idea of that, is a little too late.. wouldn't you say?

[Dick Allen]

again, the idea of that, is a little too late.. wouldn't you say?

It was always important. Parent was a very experienced minor league manager, and they had the translator. It was just the typical Caulfield spin on Bruce Levine's words interpreting that as official White Sox policy, acting like this team knows absolutely nothing about baseball.

 

 

[Dick Allen]

again, the idea of that, is a little too late.. wouldn't you say?

It was always important. Parent was a very experienced minor league manager, and they had the translator. It was just the typical Caulfield spin on Bruce Levine's words interpreting that as official White Sox policy, acting like this team knows absolutely nothing about baseball.

 

 

[southsider2k5]

Seems like it could be Renteria

 

 

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/11/03/lev...ox-bench-coach/

 

an article like that makes me wonder if Bruce is doing a favor for the Sox or Renteria.

[Whisox05]

Been seeing maybe Manny acta name popping up for bench coach

Edited November 4, 2015 by WhiteSoxLifer

[LDF]

It was always important. Parent was a very experienced minor league manager, and they had the translator. It was just the typical Caulfield spin on Bruce Levine's words interpreting that as official White Sox policy, acting like this team knows absolutely nothing about baseball.

 

you may have a point. but i remember back in 2004 when talking about getting a bi-lingual person in the dugout, the one thing mention from the org, that with ozzie, that part was covered.

 

then after ozzie, who was the next person to help????

 

but let do the flip side, why is a need to have a bi-lingual person is needed???

[Dick Allen]

you may have a point. but i remember back in 2004 when talking about getting a bi-lingual person in the dugout, the one thing mention from the org, that with ozzie, that part was covered.

 

then after ozzie, who was the next person to help????

 

but let do the flip side, why is a need to have a bi-lingual person is needed???

I think Cooper speaks Spanish. At least a little bit. The Sox have a lot of Latin players. I would guess hearing something straight from a coach is probably better than hearing it translated. Lost in Translation. I don't think it would mean an extra 5 or 10 wins. Until the saber guys have some sort of bench coach metric, I'm not buying Mark Parent cost the White Sox games. We don't even know exactly what he did besides work with the catchers and grab the phone for replays.

 

Kaplan mentioned Dave Martinez handles replays and OF positioning. Lazerus was on and said bench coach and 1st base coach are the cushiest jobs in sports. Could be, although a friend of mine was a 3rd string QB in the NFL for a few years. He got paid a lot of money for a regular person and wound up throwing 2 passes in his career. Never even got hit.

Edited November 4, 2015 by Dick Allen

[LDF]

I think Cooper speaks Spanish. At least a little bit. The Sox have a lot of Latin players. I would guess hearing something straight from a coach is probably better than hearing it translated. Lost in Translation. I don't think it would mean an extra 5 or 10 wins. Until the saber guys have some sort of bench coach metric, I'm not buying Mark Parent cost the White Sox games. We don't even know exactly what he did besides work with the catchers and grab the phone for replays.

 

Kaplan mentioned Dave Martinez handles replays and OF positioning. Lazerus was on and said bench coach and 1st base coach are the cushiest jobs in sports. Could be, although a friend of mine was a 3rd string QB in the NFL for a few years. He got paid a lot of money for a regular person and wound up throwing 2 passes in his career. Never even got hit.

 

nice.... lost in translation.... i could not have thought of a better word.

 

in the late 80's. the push was there, whether it was covert or accidental of more prospects coming from south of the border so to speak.

 

the sox was trying and thinking of exploring the idea of getting some bi-lingual person just for the translation. the idea was comfort level of the players mind set. now don't shoot the messenger but that was the discussion and thinking. players who can talk to someone in their language naturally instead of trying to think of the translation was the subject.

 

now this was from a sox minor official that was there for the season ticket holders get together. i always thought that it was a great approach. now i don't know, but there was a idea floating around of having a english class for some really young prospects. now i do not if that was ever done.

 

but the idea of baseball is expanding to start including other nations and prospects are premium commodity .

[Dick Allen]

nice.... lost in translation.... i could not have thought of a better word.

 

in the late 80's. the push was there, whether it was covert or accidental of more prospects coming from south of the border so to speak.

 

the sox was trying and thinking of exploring the idea of getting some bi-lingual person just for the translation. the idea was comfort level of the players mind set. now don't shoot the messenger but that was the discussion and thinking. players who can talk to someone in their language naturally instead of trying to think of the translation was the subject.

 

now this was from a sox minor official that was there for the season ticket holders get together. i always thought that it was a great approach. now i don't know, but there was a idea floating around of having a english class for some really young prospects. now i do not if that was ever done.

 

but the idea of baseball is expanding to start including other nations and prospects are premium commodity .

There definitely are English classes available. I do think a lot of these guys, why they don't speak English, understand it well enough to get by, but a guy actually speaking directly to them in Spanish probably is more effective.

[caulfield12]

With DeAza, Viciedo and possibly Alexei now gone, who are the Hispanic players they would be having trouble communicating with? Those were the ones mostly commonly accused of having low baseball IQs, along with Rios and the whole loafing issue, but that was more under Ozzie.

 

Abreu and Avi Garcia seem to deal with language issues fairly well. Maybe Carlos Sanchez or Montas?

 

Rodon obviously grew up in the States. Nieto isn't really part of the picture now, and they probably don't care about Leury Garcia so much.

[LDF]

There definitely are English classes available. I do think a lot of these guys, why they don't speak English, understand it well enough to get by, but a guy actually speaking directly to them in Spanish probably is more effective.

 

a lot of people really don't understand the mind set if they have never been in that situation.... learning how to speak another language while under the gun so to speak.

 

now some may say that is an exaggeration and maybe it is, but does it really hurt anyone if an org wants to help their own in ways that others may not have thought about.

[cabiness42]

a lot of people really don't understand the mind set if they have never been in that situation.... learning how to speak another language while under the gun so to speak.

 

now some may say that is an exaggeration and maybe it is, but does it really hurt anyone if an org wants to help their own in ways that others may not have thought about.

 

English is so confusing I can understand why people from there don't spend a lot of their time learning a language that they're finding so difficult.

[LDF]

English is so confusing I can understand why people from there don't spend a lot of their time learning a language that they're finding so difficult.

 

oh i love this..... excellent

[caulfield12]

English is so confusing I can understand why people from there don't spend a lot of their time learning a language that they're finding so difficult.

 

 

That's not so uncommon. One of our mods makes the same mistake with their quite a bit as well. I think LDF has explained his language/grammatical issues quite a few times already.

 

Don't know very many native English speakers who get all the Spanish verbs correct in all their various tenses and forms, either.

[LDF]

That's not so uncommon. One of our mods makes the same mistake with their quite a bit as well. I think LDF has explained his language/grammatical issues quite a few times already.

 

Don't know very many native English speakers who get all the Spanish verbs correct in all their various tenses and forms, either.

 

i never gotten my degree in college b/c of my lack of grammatical english. even till today i english is like shiite if i am typing without proof reading.

[Leonard Zelig]

English is so confusing I can understand why people from there don't spend a lot of their time learning a language that they're finding so difficult.

People from ware?

[LDF]

 

i would like to say one that DA posted.

 

they are been soooo many negative things mention about the sox ownership group. but really, unless someone points out the positiveness of what they have done for the community, fans and players and especially on loyalty. many will forget.

 

now i do not, but my beef are in a area that i keep separated from the whole that was positively done.

 

i guess it is a love hate thingy.

[LDF]

People from ware?

 

[Bigsoxhurt35]

People from ware?

From over dare!

[Bigsoxhurt35]

Per Dan Hayes, Renteria is getting a second interview this week.

[Chicago White Sox]

Per Dan Hayes, Renteria is getting a second interview this week.

I'll be happy with Acta or Renteria, but would prefer Acta based on my limited information.