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QUOTE (woods of ypres @ Oct 20, 2015 -> 09:35 PM)
It sucks his tenure with the team he grew up with was so bad.

 

I really hope he doesn't hate the Sox forever now.

 

He was paid a kings ransom to pitch and he didn't do a good job at it this year. As long as the checks cashed he should be happy.

 

 

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He was horrific. Any team that signs him for 18-25 million a year is crazy, but he will get the $$$. Just like Cueto. How can any GM pay a guy like Cueto. He goes 2 innings in the ALDS?? Gets ROCKED. Yet he'll get between 20 and 25 mill a year. Crazy.

Good luck to the team that pays Shark and Cueto. Their pitches way too often scream, "hit me over the fence."

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 20, 2015 -> 10:22 PM)
He was horrific. Any team that signs him for 18-25 million a year is crazy, but he will get the $$$. Just like Cueto. How can any GM pay a guy like Cueto. He goes 2 innings in the ALDS?? Gets ROCKED. Yet he'll get between 20 and 25 mill a year. Crazy.

Good luck to the team that pays Shark and Cueto. Their pitches way too often scream, "hit me over the fence."

Cueto is going to be an interesting signing. He has obviously cost himself some money. I wonder how many teams that planned to go after him will bail.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 20, 2015 -> 10:37 PM)
Cueto is going to be an interesting signing. He has obviously cost himself some money. I wonder how many teams that planned to go after him will bail.

 

That's why he's going back to the NL.

 

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Oct 20, 2015 -> 10:42 PM)
What a disaster that whole thing was. Absolutely embarrassing. He cost himself so much money. Glad he is gone.

 

He's going to look horrible in the home run machine that is Yankee Stadium.

 

Agreed. Or in SF if they don't resign Leake.

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Haha....

 

Cueto claims the Jays were stealing signs now. First, it was his catcher (Perez) that was holding the glove/target too high for him, which he didn't bring up until about 9-10 starts into his Royals' tenure.

 

Seems he is full of excuses and hasn't taken any blame or responsibility himself.

 

Maybe he's just in denial that he's cost himself $25-50 million in total contract value in basically just two months of baseball in the AL.

 

 

Zimmermann should be target #1 for any team, assuming they can't afford Greinke and Price. Right now, you'd have to put Shark behind those four, Iwakuma, Latos, Fister....probably around #8. Some other teams will prefer to give less money and years to a Mike Leake, Brandon Beachy, Mark Guthrie, Colon, Happ, Haren (if he doesn't retire again), Aaron Harang, etc.

 

 

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The Shark has given up more earned runs than any other pitcher this year.

 

Offer him the slot, bounce up and down and celebrate when he doesn't accept it. Get a supplementary draft pick and $17 million odd to sort out our weak areas and let EJ pitch for us next season.

 

EJ can't be any worse than Shark was last year.

 

Bye Shark, don't slam the door on the way out.

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Technically, we have $9.8 million freed up to sign a replacement....but there are other players getting increases as well so it probably amounts to $6-9 million per player to sign two new guys.

 

Also depends if they're going to replace Alexei, but that's doubtful knowing the White Sox typical sentimental attachment to certain players.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 21, 2015 -> 11:58 AM)
Technically, we have $9.8 million freed up to sign a replacement....but there are other players getting increases as well so it probably amounts to $6-9 million per player to sign two new guys.

 

Also depends if they're going to replace Alexei, but that's doubtful knowing the White Sox typical sentimental attachment to certain players.

 

We have the Qualifying Offer amount freed up to spend on other players as that money will have been budgeted if the Shark accepts the Qualifying Offer.

 

The money saved by not renewing other players etc would not have been factored into this. The Sox have to budget as if the Shark signs the QO which would give them $17 odd million (or whatever the QO is) to spend on the playing budget.

 

 

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 21, 2015 -> 01:06 PM)
Except it's kind of pointless to budget for something which has less than a 2% chance of happening.

 

It's like expecting them to spend the money they were prepared to give Tanaka two offseasons ago.

 

It's not pointless, it's good business sense.

 

The money that they were prepared to give Tanaka two off-seasons ago ended up being spent last off-season. Just because the money wasn't spent immediately, it doesn't mean that it wasn't available. It was probably that money that paid for Melky.

 

The Shark money will have been budgeted for and they will have a budget and a plan if Shark accepts or if he rejects. The $17 million is there for them to spend if the right player comes along, otherwise it will be there available for mid-season trades or the next offseason.

 

 

 

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QUOTE (glangon @ Oct 21, 2015 -> 08:24 AM)
It's not pointless, it's good business sense.

 

The money that they were prepared to give Tanaka two off-seasons ago ended up being spent last off-season. Just because the money wasn't spent immediately, it doesn't mean that it wasn't available. It was probably that money that paid for Melky.

 

The Shark money will have been budgeted for and they will have a budget and a plan if Shark accepts or if he rejects. The $17 million is there for them to spend if the right player comes along, otherwise it will be there available for mid-season trades or the next offseason.

 

Not necessarily. Chances are good that something along that line required a special one time approval from the board or Jerry. We also don't know that it would have meant moving around other money in the case that it happened.

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