caulfield12 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Ballz-n-Strikes @ Oct 31, 2015 -> 11:29 PM) 3 years ago...I'd have loved him. After ALL the NL signing FAIL.. I don't want a single thing from the NL. Nothing. I'm with kite on this. (And that includes Heyward). Puig is the only one that is interesting to me.... I think Hahn could get Puig AND Cespedes if he's smart. If we would had the right manager/coaching to deal with them, sure! Depends on who we hire for bench coach. An empty seat at this rate. That particular combination requires dumping LaRoche and trading Quintana...so the resulting rotation would be Sale, Rodon, Danks, Erik Johnson and Turner/Montas. Playoff worthy? Getting another starting pitcher back with Puig for Q will also cost some key prospects. Edited November 1, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballz Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) If we would had the right manager/coaching to deal with them, sure! Depends on who we hire for bench coach. An empty seat at this rate. That particular combination requires dumping LaRoche and trading Quintana...so the resulting rotation would be Sale, Rodon, Danks, Erik Johnson and Turner/Montas. Playoff worthy? Getting another starting pitcher back with Puig for Q will also cost some key prospects. Quintana is untouchable. Where do you get that from? *Edit - I'm editing my OWN post. He is more valuable (arguably) than Sale. THAT is how good Q is. Edited November 1, 2015 by Ballz-n-Strikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Ballz-n-Strikes @ Oct 31, 2015 -> 11:42 PM) Quintana is untouchable. Where do you get that from? *Edit - I'm editing my OWN post. He is more valuable (arguably) than Sale. THAT is how good Q is. I love Quintana, but have to fully disagree here. Don't see an argument for how Quintana is more valuable than Sale. Edited November 1, 2015 by Chicago White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 QUOTE (Ballz-n-Strikes @ Oct 31, 2015 -> 11:42 PM) Quintana is untouchable. Where do you get that from? *Edit - I'm editing my OWN post. He is more valuable (arguably) than Sale. THAT is how good Q is. wut? Sale has more value to this team. Stop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Re: Puig. I think Mattingly was fed up with him. New Manager might feel differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Desmond turned down QO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (oldsox @ Nov 1, 2015 -> 08:19 AM) Re: Puig. I think Mattingly was fed up with him. New Manager might feel differently. unless that new manager ended up being Kirk Gibson for some strange reason. I'd pay to see that inevitable brawl... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (Ballz-n-Strikes @ Nov 1, 2015 -> 12:42 AM) Quintana is untouchable. Where do you get that from? *Edit - I'm editing my OWN post. He is more valuable (arguably) than Sale. THAT is how good Q is. That is simply not a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 06:20 PM) Realistically, Alexei will be our SS next year. I really believe that. MAYBE the Sox could look at Desmond at 3rd, but I don't see us spending big money on a new SS, with bigger holes at 3B and C. I agree that Ramirez will most likely be back at SS for the Sox. Third base is a spot to look at a free agent or trade candidate, but I am not sure Desmond is the guy. Is he someone we have to pay $15M for? If so forget it IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 if management thinks he can play 3b, they why not?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 04:07 PM) if management thinks he can play 3b, they why not?? Because you would give up a draft pick for him and he's never played 3B in the MLB. If I'm giving up a draft pick, give me Upton and Heyward who are more advanced offensively and even defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 11:12 PM) Because you would give up a draft pick for him and he's never played 3B in the MLB. If I'm giving up a draft pick, give me Upton and Heyward who are more advanced offensively and even defensively. logically you are correct . howver with the outfield really not needing a player, and the sox really need a 3b. however in essence, we as fans do not have all the necessary info that the pro's have, they may have some info that may change everything . however, it is not likely to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 10:07 PM) if management thinks he can play 3b, they why not?? It's always a crap shoot for sure. Looking at his past history he has had some real decent years. But, losing a draft choice and spending lots of money just doesn't seem to fit in with the Sox plans going forward. Plus we just haven't had good luck with hitters from the NL signing with us. But, I would then add that we have expected everyday position players to fit in the DH role where they have had no experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Curious about people who fixate on the #narrative of the Sox continuing to fail by signing NL players who don't hit for the White Sox. In your bizarre fever dreams, is it the wrong thing to do because: 1) National League hitters can't hit when they come to the American League 2) Players can't hit when they switch from either league to the other 3) NL players are bad when they get to the White Sox because the White Sox are uniquely cursed because they are your favorite team, and bad stuff only happens to your favorite team 4) All free agents are bad when they get to the White Sox because the White Sox are uniquely cursed because they are your favorite team, and bad stuff only happens to your favorite team 5) Adam Eaton's success with the White Sox doesn't count because it doesn't fit your #narrative 6) Adam Dunn's 41 home run season with the White Sox doesn't count because it doesn't fit your #narrative 7) Carlos Quentin's success with the White Sox doesn't count because it doesn't fit your #narrative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (Tannerfan @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 02:48 PM) The punting on the season happened when they brought back Ventura Ned. Yost. Terry. Collins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Nov 14, 2015 -> 12:05 AM) It's always a crap shoot for sure. Looking at his past history he has had some real decent years. But, losing a draft choice and spending lots of money just doesn't seem to fit in with the Sox plans going forward. Plus we just haven't had good luck with hitters from the NL signing with us. But, I would then add that we have expected everyday position players to fit in the DH role where they have had no experience the last time i posted something like this, i was attacked by 2 #$%@ who likes to follow me. all what you are saying is true, at least it needs to be in the equation when thinking of it. this is one of my crazy wild arse fixation on Desmond, i just thought he plays a ss position and while he may be good or not at that position, i just thought 3b may be a little easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Alexei is a buy low candidate. BABIP of .264 in 2015 with above average defense. He'll cost much less than Desmond as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I agree with Vance, the Sox should not shy away from NL hitters just because a few recent acquisitions have not worked out. That said, I've lost all interest in Desmond. Would rather go with Freese whom will not cost as much money and will not cost a pick either. Freese would buy the Sox time to develop Trey or trade for a young 3B at some point over the next few years. Not my first choice but imo, I'm not willing to give a pick for Desmond nor do I have the desire to give up top prospects for Frazier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 See what the Braves want for Aybar. Can't be much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 06:40 PM) See what the Braves want for Aybar. Can't be much. Why give up assets whereas Saladino or resigning Alexei could produce the same if not more than Aybar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 06:40 PM) See what the Braves want for Aybar. Can't be much. Alexei would be a cheaper option that wouldn't cost a prospect(s). Offensively/defensively, Aybar and Alexei are rather comparable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 06:42 PM) Why give up assets whereas Saladino or resigning Alexei could produce the same if not more than Aybar? I'm all for playing Saladino. It doesn't seem to sit well with anyone else. Aybar is terrible...he should be had for basically zilch, unless the Braves just want to hang on until July, pray he has a good first half. The Braves have been willing to suck up salary as they rebuild...they are a little different than most in that regard. Alexei moving on was the first step in de-clowning this team. He needs to stay away. Let him go, please. Edited November 14, 2015 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 06:44 PM) I'm all for playing Saladino. It doesn't seem to sit well with anyone else. Aybar is terrible...he should be had for basically zilch, unless the Braves just want to hang on until July, pray he has a good first half. The Braves have been willing to suck up salary as they rebuild...they are a little different than most in that regard. Alexei moving on was the first step in de-clowning this team. He needs to stay away. Let him go, please. I'm down with this until Anderson is ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 06:44 PM) I'm all for playing Saladino. It doesn't seem to sit well with anyone else. Aybar is terrible...he should be had for basically zilch, unless the Braves just want to hang on until July, pray he has a good first half. The Braves have been willing to suck up salary as they rebuild...they are a little different than most in that regard. Alexei moving on was the first step in de-clowning this team. He needs to stay away. Let him go, please. I'm not advocating trading for Aybar but he is far from terrible. But I get it, you have heard his name before so he is a hero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 14, 2015 -> 12:36 AM) I agree with Vance, the Sox should not shy away from NL hitters just because a few recent acquisitions have not worked out. That said, I've lost all interest in Desmond. Would rather go with Freese whom will not cost as much money and will not cost a pick either. Freese would buy the Sox time to develop Trey or trade for a young 3B at some point over the next few years. Not my first choice but imo, I'm not willing to give a pick for Desmond nor do I have the desire to give up top prospects for Frazier. excellent pov.... i am sold. scratched my post on Desmond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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