Swingandalongonetoleft Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (rowand's rowdies @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 02:08 PM) Alexi came to our White Sox in 2006 and has been here ever since. Time for this era in White Sox History to close. He signed after the 2007 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 01:17 PM) According to this, rejecting an option (team or player) doesn't prevent a team from offering a QO. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/10/expl...fer-system.html http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/11/alex...free-agent.html In Gordon's case, he had a $14 million player option but declined since he's widely expected to be offered 5/100 by someone. So the Royals will get back the draft pick compensation at the very least. They will offer him three years at $65-70 million with some type of amenable option on a fourth year. Then it comes down to whether he's willing to give up $30-35 million in guaranteed money to leave the only organization he's ever played for and a place where he's totally comfortable. Edited November 5, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) Before anymore qualifying offer questions are asked I think it's important to point out that the QO is worth 15.8 M this year. If a player isn't percieved to be worth that much then they will not get a QO. Edited November 5, 2015 by BlackSox13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) Why would any team reject a $10 Mill option, only to make a 15M QO? I know it's hard to believe it now, but Sox life will go on without Alexei. The org. will find a way to endure. Edited November 5, 2015 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 04:45 PM) Why would any team reject a $10 Mill option, only to make a 15M QO? I know it's hard to believe it now, but Sox life will go on without Alexei. The org. will find a way to endure. Not only that, but pay $1 million for that ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 11:45 PM) Why would any team reject a $10 Mill option, only to make a 15M QO? I know it's hard to believe it now, but Sox life will go on without Alexei. The org. will find a way to endure. True, but we don't know what the plan is. Like I said earlier, an infield of Olt, Saladino, Sanchez (or Micah), Abreu is very very weak offensively. We don't have a shortstop and nobody's really stated a possible acquisition at short. So it'll probably be Saladino/Beckham, LOL at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Beckham is a FA and with so many infielders its doubtful the Sox bring him back. One idea for SS could be Asdrubal Cabrera, depending on his asking price and if the Sox do indeed part ways with Alexei. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 All I know is that this team hasn't won a WS since Uribe left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdiego Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Make the Sox relevant again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 For some perspective from a guy in the industry, Keith Law just posted his top 50 free agents list and Alexei came in at #47. He said that it was smart the Sox declined his option, and it could create a buy-low opportunity for another club and said he would give him a one year deal at 3-4 million. FWIW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 One thing I forgot is Lexi could be 42 by now. The age thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 6, 2015 -> 02:37 PM) One thing I forgot is Lexi could be 42 by now. The age thing. That's true. I really doubt he came over with a legit birth certificate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Nov 6, 2015 -> 11:26 AM) For some perspective from a guy in the industry, Keith Law just posted his top 50 free agents list and Alexei came in at #47. He said that it was smart the Sox declined his option, and it could create a buy-low opportunity for another club and said he would give him a one year deal at 3-4 million. FWIW I agree that it was smart to decline. But some team that has their sights set on the playoffs may take a run at him w 6-8 mil if they feel he could fill a hole they have at a key position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 08:47 PM) Beckham is a FA and with so many infielders its doubtful the Sox bring him back. One idea for SS could be Asdrubal Cabrera, depending on his asking price and if the Sox do indeed part ways with Alexei. Beckham - that's not even contingency plan 1004. Cabrera's a lousy defender. Rather Saladino The FA market for SS sucks. yes someone will sign Alexei for 6-7 mill. The lesson, really, is that we should have traded him last winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 8, 2015 -> 12:40 AM) Beckham - that's not even contingency plan 1004. Cabrera's a lousy defender. Rather Saladino The FA market for SS sucks. yes someone will sign Alexei for 6-7 mill. The lesson, really, is that we should have traded him last winter. No, the FO thought they were going to contend for a playoff spot back then. Hell, they thought they were still contending at the July trade deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 QUOTE (SCCWS @ Nov 8, 2015 -> 08:25 AM) No, the FO thought they were going to contend for a playoff spot back then. Hell, they thought they were still contending at the July trade deadline. Maybe. Or maybe they didn't want to give the impression that they weren't going for it. July inactivity = scars from the White Flag which at this point probably stick in JR's mind and nowhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Paul Sullivan @PWSullivan 25m25 minutes ago Sox haven't closed the door on bringing Alexei back, but didn't want to pay him $10 million. Someone else will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Paul Sullivan @PWSullivan 25m25 minutes ago Sox haven't closed the door on bringing Alexei back, but didn't want to pay him $10 million. Someone else will. Dan Hayes @CSNHayes 32m32 minutes ago Rick Hahn said door isn't closed on Alexei Ramirez returning. But he expects SS will find a decent market in FA. #WhiteSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Seems to be pretty evident he isn't coming back unless he wants to take an actual discount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 04:20 PM) Seems to be pretty evident he isn't coming back unless he wants to take an actual discount Agree. I think he'll probably go to San Diego. Him or Asdrubal I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 Alexei Ramirez would still like to play for #WhiteSox. But he's also set to meet w/ 2 other interested teams today. https://t.co/Ysvm4M1vNT https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/664172192201113600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Move on. No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 6m6 minutes ago Free-agent SS Alexei Ramirez is at the GM meetings, presumably meeting with clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 Sources: #Padres still talking to SS Alexei Ramirez, as first reported by @MLBBruceLevine. Would require shorter term than Desmond. https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/685514100147879938 Signing Ramirez also would enable #Padres to keep 2nd-round pick (1st pick, No. 8 overall, is protected). SD could get six picks in top 100. https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/685514105285914624 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 03:10 PM) Move on. No thanks. Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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