bmags Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 03:57 PM) I remember attending a Sox game in Seattle with Felix Hernandez against Phil Humber. Carlos Quentin hit a laser homerun to left field off the King. Humber was dueling Hernandez and Sox lost 3-2 when Thonrton blew it with 2 out in the bottom of the 9th And I saw Dylan Axelrod actually outduel King Felix, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Dan Hayes @CSNHayes 4m4 minutes ago Only way see Jose Quintana getting traded is if #WhiteSox got a really nice package of hitters back. Great contract, very good production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 Theo on a trade w with White Sox: “I’d be up for it. If it helps both teams on the surface, why not?” https://twitter.com/ESPNChiCubs/status/663853671172599808 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 12:04 AM) Theo on a trade w with White Sox: “I’d be up for it. If it helps both teams on the surface, why not?” https://twitter.com/ESPNChiCubs/status/663853671172599808 here is my translation. as long as it helps both teams, from the sCrubs, ss/3b - Castro, c-Ross and they would throw in 3b - Hannemann for either Q or Rodon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 05:18 PM) here is my translation. as long as it helps both teams, from the sCrubs, ss/3b - Castro, c-Ross and they would throw in 3b - Hannemann for either Q or Rodon. There is so much wrong with this that I don't even know where to start. 1. Why would the Sox want Castro or Ross? 2. Even if they did want them, why would they trade Q or Rodon for them? 3. Who is Hannemann? 4. The Cubs and Sox won't be making any blockbuster deals any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 11:27 PM) There is so much wrong with this that I don't even know where to start. 1. Why would the Sox want Castro or Ross? 2. Even if they did want them, why would they trade Q or Rodon for them? 3. Who is Hannemann? 4. The Cubs and Sox won't be making any blockbuster deals any time soon. this is from Theo pov of what is a fair trade. btw, i am being snarky that is why the green .... Hanneman is the 30th prospect of the northsider and is 25 i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 05:29 PM) this is from Theo pov of what is a fair trade. btw, i am being snarky that is why the green .... Hanneman is the 30th prospect of the northsider and is 25 i think. Oh I know, I wasn't insulting you or anything like that. It's just that Epstein is out of his freaking mind if he thinks the Sox would accept a deal anything remotely close to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 11:31 PM) Oh I know, I wasn't insulting you or anything like that. It's just that Epstein is out of his freaking mind if he thinks the Sox would accept a deal anything remotely close to that. hahaha. that is funny..... even if it isn't... i think it is. that is the way my day went. it all kool. Edited November 9, 2015 by LDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 05:31 PM) Oh I know, I wasn't insulting you or anything like that. It's just that Epstein is out of his freaking mind if he thinks the Sox would accept a deal anything remotely close to that. You know that this isn't a real offer right? No one is out of their mind and that deal would never be offered for Quintana in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 05:27 PM) 4. The Cubs and Sox won't be making any blockbuster deals any time soon. If you listen to Cubs fans they only want to trade their junk: Castro, Soler, etc. (Soler and Castro aggregated to a .9 WAR last year). But even if Theo is willing to make an honest trade, I just don't see a matchup. Who do they have that we want? Any ML ready C or 3B? I know they have some guys in low minors, but I just don't see the fit. Now, I can see fits with Boston, the number 1 player-hype machine in MLB (Cubs still #2). But not Cubs. Edited November 9, 2015 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 05:48 PM) If you listen to Cubs fans they only want to trade their junk: Castro, Soler, etc. (Soler and Castro aggregated to a .9 WAR last year). But even if Theo is willing to make an honest trade, I just don't see a matchup. Who do they have that we want? Any ML ready C or 3B? I know they have some guys in low minors, but I just don't see the fit. Now, I can see fits with Boston, the number 1 player-hype machine in MLB (Cubs still #2). But not Cubs. There would be a fit if we were rebuilding and we're a few years away so adding lower level guys made sense but we're likely trying to compete now so it doesn't. Edited November 9, 2015 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 11:48 PM) If you listen to Cubs fans they only want to trade their junk: Castro, Soler, etc. (Soler and Castro aggregated to a .9 WAR last year). But even if Theo is willing to make an honest trade, I just don't see a matchup. Who do they have that we want? Any ML ready C or 3B? I know they have some guys in low minors, but I just don't see the fit. Now, I can see fits with Boston, the number 1 player-hype machine in MLB (Cubs still #2). But not Cubs. really i am being serious, if the northsiders were willing and so the sox, how can they make a trade that will be in equal value. for me, i would want Rizzo, Russell and a minor leaguer in the top 5 range. for Q and a rp or rp prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 11:50 PM) There would be a fit if we were rebuilding and we're a few years away so adding lower level guys made sense but we're likely trying to compete now so it doesn't. good point, i would easily make Q for a hand full of their top 10 prospects. but the problem is, and i think someone already said this, they could easly go for a sp like price .... they have the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 05:53 PM) really i am being serious, if the northsiders were willing and so the sox, how can they make a trade that will be in equal value. for me, i would want Rizzo, Russell and a minor leaguer in the top 5 range. for Q and a rp or rp prospect. I don't think they'd trade Rizzo personally. He's their captain now on a team friendly deal just as team friendly as Q. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 11:56 PM) I don't think they'd trade Rizzo personally. He's their captain now on a team friendly deal just as team friendly as Q. anyone other than him and russell, the deal would not be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 05:57 PM) anyone other than him and russell, the deal would not be fair. I think Bryant and Rizzo are the likely 2 untouchables in their lineup. I do think that since they have middle infield depth that Russell could be had in a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 12:57 AM) anyone other than him and russell, the deal would not be fair. Man are there going to be posters disappointed by the actual return they get for Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 05:59 PM) Man are there going to be posters disappointed by the actual return they get for Q Agree. If they were to deal him anyway. My preference is to deal from the pitching depth in the minors for hitting. Edited November 10, 2015 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon_44 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 02:51 PM) 86 games in 2012 82 games in 2013 50 games in 2014 Never has played a full season due to injuries. He is always injured, but we know this. I'd take 20 games of CQ over another season of LaRoche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 06:00 PM) Agree. If they were to deal him anyway. My preference is to deal from the pitching depth in the minors for hitting. No. Stockpile that. Deal some once the foundation is built. This org is in no position to trade young players except in exchange for someone else's young players. I'm okay with dealing Q or Sale for that matter, for the right price. He's a 4-5 War player, at a low salary with years of control. That's the price. I'd deal Eaton first, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 05:48 PM) If you listen to Cubs fans they only want to trade their junk: Castro, Soler, etc. (Soler and Castro aggregated to a .9 WAR last year). But even if Theo is willing to make an honest trade, I just don't see a matchup. Who do they have that we want? Any ML ready C or 3B? I know they have some guys in low minors, but I just don't see the fit. Now, I can see fits with Boston, the number 1 player-hype machine in MLB (Cubs still #2). But not Cubs. I definitely wouldn't mind seeing Baez being traded here. He has some pop and his defense seems decent for the most part as well. I wonder what the Cubs would do if the Sox offered Erik Johnson and a fringe prospect like Tyler Danish for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 05:44 PM) You know that this isn't a real offer right? No one is out of their mind and that deal would never be offered for Quintana in the first place. It's just stupid to even be thinking about it since Quintana will not be traded to the Cubs. I'm 100% sure of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 01:15 AM) It's just stupid to even be thinking about it since Quintana will not be traded to the Cubs. I'm 100% sure of it. damn, i the sox can get a good pkg including just prospects, i will trade Q to the Cards, just to make sure they screw the sCrubs up in the playoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 06:18 PM) damn, i the sox can get a good pkg including just prospects, i will trade Q to the Cards, just to make sure they screw the sCrubs up in the playoff. I'd already prefer that than trading him to the Cubs. I really like Stephen Piscotty and Carlos Martinez. All I know is that it would suck so much to see the Sox trade Q to the North Side just to see him take the Cubs to the next level. It'd be such a slap in the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 07:14 PM) No. Stockpile that. Deal some once the foundation is built. This org is in no position to trade young players except in exchange for someone else's young players. I'm okay with dealing Q or Sale for that matter, for the right price. He's a 4-5 War player, at a low salary with years of control. That's the price. I'd deal Eaton first, though. I couldn't disagree more with most everything in this post. But I suppose that is the case most of the time when I read your posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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