Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 01:59 PM) Reading the comments about Samardzija on MLBTR was a funny read. Good stuff there. fWAR is useless. Doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I bet it's bs. But then again it is free agency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 01:48 PM) Agree, I don't care for Frazier much. He had a hot streak, but is sub standard defensively and outside of getting hot, is not much more than an average bat. Ugh, what? He has posted a 2.6 WAR or higher the last 4 seasons, with 2 being higher than 4 WAR. In addition, he rates pretty highly defensively. 6th best defensive score, 6th best UZR, 7th best UZR/150, and 7th best DRS among 3B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:03 PM) Ugh, what? He has posted a 2.6 WAR or higher the last 4 seasons, with 2 being higher than 4 WAR. In addition, he rates pretty highly defensively. 6th best defensive score, 6th best UZR, 7th best UZR/150, and 7th best DRS among 3B. Thank you...I was just about to say something about that "sub par" bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 if Samardzija has a 100M offer on the table, i highly doubt it is the Cubs. I dont think they are gonna offer him 4/84 in 2014 and then offer him 16M more after the season he had last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:02 PM) fWAR is useless. Doesn't make sense. I don't pay much attention to it myself. I'm mainly laughing because the Samardzija supporters are arguing on his behalf saying the Sox defense was bad, which it was and is true. But the Sox defense had nothing to do with the 29 cruise missiles launched off the bats of opposing hitters, that's on Samardzija. But hey, he tweaked his mechanics and is all good now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:07 PM) if Samardzija has a 100M offer on the table, i highly doubt it is the Cubs. I dont think they are gonna offer him 4/84 in 2014 and then offer him 16M more after the season he had last year. Thinking the same thing. Signing Samardzija would chew most of if not all of what the cubs have to spare. Imo, SF is trying to drive up the price on Grienke while looking at a more realistic option like Samardzija. I'm guessing SF made that offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:10 PM) I don't pay much attention to it myself. I'm mainly laughing because the Samardzija supporters are arguing on his behalf saying the Sox defense was bad, which it was and is true. But the Sox defense had nothing to do with the 29 cruise missiles launched off the bats of opposing hitters, that's on Samardzija. But hey, he tweaked his mechanics and is all good now. I think fWAR for pitchers is far more useful but that's me I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 QUOTE (kevo880 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 01:43 PM) As badly as we need a third baseman I would hate to see a deal of Quinatana for Frasier, even if there were more pieces involved. Hahn will not give up 5 years of Quintana for 2 years of Frazier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo880 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:21 PM) Hahn will not give up 5 years of Quintana for 2 years of Frazier. I hope not, but it's hard to come up with better third basemen that are available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:02 PM) fWAR is useless. Doesn't make sense. QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:17 PM) I think fWAR for pitchers is far more useful but that's me I guess. I'm a bit confused here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:28 PM) I'm a bit confused here. The first one should have been in green. The comments section had a guy that was talking about fWAR being useless. I thought that was funny. Then I stated that I prefer fWAR when comparing pitchers. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:31 PM) The first one should have been in green. The comments section had a guy that was talking about fWAR being useless. I thought that was funny. Then I stated that I prefer fWAR when comparing pitchers. My bad. Ok, I follow ya. I admit that I mostly stick to traditional stats so that's why I was confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 If he has $100 million on the table, which I seriously doubt, IMO, it's the Dodgers if they don't bring back Greinke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 03:02 PM) fWAR is useless. Doesn't make sense. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:40 PM) lol Did you read the quotes on MLBTR? That's what I was referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 04:39 PM) Did you read the quotes on MLBTR? That's what I was referring to. Yeah, that's what my "lol" was referring to also. Sorry for unclear. I am lazy with posts sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 $18 million is the going AAV for Jeff Samardzija . How many years ? Source confirms one team has offered $90 million . https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine/status/672598855163101184 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 08:12 PM) $18 million is the going AAV for Jeff Samardzija . How many years ? Source confirms one team has offered $90 million . https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine/status/672598855163101184 Psh and people here thought he'd accept the QO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 f*** Samardzija. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 08:46 PM) Once again, this should just make you appreciate the value of the contracts of Sale and Q. How Hahn got those done, I'll never understand. Pretty easy actually. Only one full year in the rotation so not a lot of leverage, could only negotiate with us, took the money for financial security, didn't buy out many free agent years (only 2 for Sale). Just wait for his next contract haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Cubs remain interested in a reunion with Jeff Samardzija. But buzz in the industry is that his price is rising beyond their comfort level https://twitter.com/jaysonst/status/672815666936881152 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 02:44 AM) Psh and people here thought he'd accept the QO. even if he did, a sp at 16+ who needs to do the best he can to redeem his value, by default, the sox will get the reward as well not only but the win / lost stat, then next yr give him another QO.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtsoxfan Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Jeff Samardzija has a $90M offer which team? http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/12/04/jef...r-on-the-table/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Sounds like Cubs might be going the hardest after Lackey. I don't think that would be a great fit for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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