Whisox05 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) Kenny Williams says White Sox still deciding on "Plan A, Plan B, Plan C" for the offseason with the winter meetings approaching. https://twitter.com/ESPNChiSox/status/667002910530760704 Williams: "Rick (Hahn) is having conversation on a daily basis. I have a number of conversations with him on a daily basis with regard https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/667003035755917312 Williams: ".. to how things are evolving. But as far as a plan of attack right now, if I went to him and ... https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/667003164374249472 Wiilliams: "... said ‘OK, I want your definitive plan heading into the winter meetings,’ he couldn’t give it to me." https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/667003233601232896 More to come soon on https://t.co/0EC8bW9xiJ. Basically Williams said Rick Hahn is diligently putting in the daily work, but they are ... https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/667003454938849281 still figuring out whether to go with Plan A, Plan B or Plan C. https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/667003565454598144 White Sox still deciding on everything from a rebuild to adding to the payroll. "A lot of it depends on what's available to you," -KW https://twitter.com/ESPNChiSox/status/667003290652123141 Edited November 18, 2015 by WhiteSoxLifer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 That is not reassuring at all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 They've had 2 months to figure out a direction to go in. To me, Kenny's comments make the whole organization look incompetent. But to me, the biggest comment is that last one. There isn't that much available unless they are willing to spend money in FA on an OF or maybe SP, or go after some proven names on the trade market. If I were a betting man, those comments are saying that they might go rebuild, and that scares the s*** out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 "White Sox still deciding on everything from a rebuild to adding to the payroll" Ugh, what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 If all of those are truly comments from Kenny Williams both Williams and Hahn should be fired. Hahn for having no clue what to do and Williams for telling this to the media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Or it means they are flexible, which is usually a good thing. There is nothing wrong with making decisions based upon what is available on the marketplace. In fact, that DOES make me excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I stopped listening to what KW said a long time ago, as it's usually never honest. I'm sure people on here will still blame him for any bad move Hahn makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 18, 2015 -> 04:52 PM) Or it means they are flexible, which is usually a good thing. There is nothing wrong with making decisions based upon what is available on the marketplace. In fact, that DOES make me excited. Yep, can't say you are adding on if you intend to trade Quintana. My guess is we see some rebuilding while adding MLB ready contract controlled players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 So KW insists they "go all in" and try to win and Hahn wants a rebuild.. Wonder who wins this battle?? Again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 And a lot of his comments are noise. No sense letting the opposition know exactly what you are going to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Holy s*** people are reading way too much into these comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 18, 2015 -> 09:52 AM) I stopped listening to what KW said a long time ago, as it's usually never honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Maybe at the very least, people will see Hahn does actually have a big say in things, not only the things you like, although many liked the things that occurred last offseason and praised Hahn, only to rip KW when they didn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Less disconcerted by the comments than by the fact this sure looks like KW throwing someone under the bus again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I don't think this is such a big deal. They have several plans it sounds like. Qualifying Offers are just now being accepted / rejected. How could they possibly know what exactly their doing until the market plays out? Other teams need to know whether players are going to accept / reject, and if the Sox are in trade talks with any of those teams, they're in a state of limbo until those other teams know what they're doing. For instance, if Sox had anticipated making a play for Wieters, well they had to see what he would do. Now they know, so they move on re-evaluate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 QUOTE (daggins @ Nov 18, 2015 -> 10:06 AM) Less disconcerted by the comments than by the fact this sure looks like KW throwing someone under the bus again. This. I understanding anything said publicly this time of year is just noise/misdirection, but why make Rick Hahn look bad in the process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 18, 2015 -> 09:52 AM) I stopped listening to what KW said a long time ago, as it's usually never honest. I'm sure people on here will still blame him for any bad move Hahn makes. The thread should be closed here, as this is the most true thing that will be said in the entire thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 It's a lot of work to touch base with all the other teams to get ideas about who could be available via trade and a rough estimate of what it might take to acquire said players. They probably have targets, but if none of them are available or are too expensive, then it probably is a better idea to sell off some of your assets, provided you get the return you want. Or just do nothing. I don't think many people would be happy about nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) Im fine with him throwing shade before the winter meetings, but to "go for it" last year, hit the FA market hard, and say you're in a 3 year window, only to follow it up by saying you might rebuild makes you look incompetent. That's not a look I want the fanbase seeing when Im in the business of selling tickets. Edited November 18, 2015 by Dunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (southside hitman @ Nov 18, 2015 -> 10:10 AM) This. I understanding anything said publicly this time of year is just noise/misdirection, but why make Rick Hahn look bad in the process? How in the world does this make Rick Hahn look bad? BTW, December 3rd is the day season ticket deposits are due. At least the first installment. Edited November 18, 2015 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/white-...ill-development Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I'm not buying this at all. If you believe this then you're a dummy. They know what they're going to do and who they're targeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 18, 2015 -> 10:28 AM) I'm not buying this at all. If you believe this then you're a dummy. They know what they're going to do and who they're targeting. Well of course they know who that want to get. They would be pretty stupid to come out and say we want player A from this team and player B from that team but here is all we are willing to give up to get them. The issue is if there are player they want and can't get them and they are running our of options then they might have to change course and starting selling get off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 This idea that our front office is unprepared is such a stupid narrative. Anyone who has worked in any business at all knows that when you are depending on making investments where costs and availability are not certain, you have to have several backup plans and you have to be resigned to the fact that you will need to make a quick decision when the information finally gets to you. I mean, think about all of the questions you'd have for the WS front office regarding who they should acquire or who they should trade. Now, how many of those answers are anything other than "it depends"? Should they trade Chris Sale? Depends on the return they could get and depends on the direction of the team which depends on the outcomes of other deals which depend on the costs that are attached to those deals which depends on what other teams decide to do when given the exact same problem under the same circumstances at the same time. There are a billion ways to skin the cat, and almost NONE of the requisite information to choose the best way is even available yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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