LDF Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 06:17 PM) Everyone is so set on having Thompson replace Avi full time next year, but what if Thompson struggles too? Then what? and the sox took a chance on giving Avi his position in the majors on a promise of potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Popcorn, anyone? Good stuff so far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 If you can use him as a kicker for something you really like, you trade him, but if he has an option left, you don't give him away for junk. He does have talent. If he doesn't show up hitting this spring, and isn't changed by a trip to Charlotte, so what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 06:21 PM) If you can use him as a kicker for something you really like, you trade him, but if he has an option left, you don't give him away for junk. He does have talent. If he doesn't show up hitting this spring, and isn't changed by a trip to Charlotte, so what. and you make a point. however there is a little flaw in this post, no one mention giving Avi away let alone for junk. it was an exploratory idea of a trade for Avi,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 11:24 AM) and you make a point. however there is a little flaw in this post, no one mention giving Avi away let alone for junk. it was an exploratory idea of a trade for Avi,. False, Eminor3rd wants to DFA him. Edited November 19, 2015 by SoxPride18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 05:26 PM) False, Eminor wants to DFA him. and since Eminor wants to do something, does that mean no one has an idea that may be different??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 11:28 AM) and since Eminor wants to do something, does that mean no one has an idea that may be different??? What? You said that no one mentioned to give Avi away for free or for junk? If you do get rid of him, use him as part of a package to get major league talent like a C or 3B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 06:29 PM) What? You said that no one mentioned to give Avi away for free or for junk? If you do get rid of him, use him as part of a package to get major league talent like a C or 3B. and that was talked about as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I wonder if the Cubs would trade Baez for Avi and Danish/Beck/etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 06:31 PM) I wonder if the Cubs would trade Baez for Avi and Danish/Beck/etc? kinda of out there..... but i like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 11:31 AM) I wonder if the Cubs would trade Baez for Avi and Danish/Beck/etc? They have no need for Avi with their glut outfielders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Avi is a lottery ticket. Sox need all the lottery tickets they can gather. Send him to the minors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 11:31 AM) I wonder if the Cubs would trade Baez for Avi and Danish/Beck/etc? Maybe if Hahn threw in Davidson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 11:33 AM) They have no need for Avi with their glut outfielders. That's probably true, but an outfield spot will open up for them once Fowler leaves. Avi would be a much cheaper (albeit less talented) alternative to Heyward/Upton/Cespedes/etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 11:31 AM) I wonder if the Cubs would trade Baez for Avi and Danish/Beck/etc? Cubs refused to give up Baez for Tyson Ross (at least that's what I took away from last year's trade deadline), they would laugh hard at this proposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 11:38 AM) That's probably true, but an outfield spot will open up for them once Fowler leaves. Avi would be a much cheaper (albeit less talented) alternative to Heyward/Upton/Cespedes/etc Almora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 11:39 AM) Cubs refused to give up Baez for Tyson Ross (at least that's what I took away from last year's trade deadline), they would laugh hard at this proposal. Is that true? If so, the Cubs are idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 12:09 PM) Is that true? If so, the Cubs are idiots. It wasn't just Baez, he would have been the centerpiece of a package. Also it wasn't confirmed IIRC, was just speculation. Edited November 19, 2015 by OmarComing25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I like Avi... I also like Trayce. Found the below to be interesting. Avi in 2013 w/Sox .304 5HR, 21RBI. 161AB Trayce in 2015 w/Sox .295 5HR, 16RBI in 122AB Trayce also hit .234 in September and .231 in October. Those 2 months, reflected 90 of his 122 AB's of the season. (nearly 74%) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 12:12 PM) It wasn't just Baez, he would have been the centerpiece of a package. The Cubs still love Baez. There are some in their organization who think he would be a better SS than Russell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 12:14 PM) The Cubs still love Baez. There are some in their organization who think he would be a better SS than Russell. I mean, the guy has his flaws, but he was still rated as a top 5 prospect in all of baseball just a couple years ago for a reason. We aren't getting him cheap if we want him. Edited November 19, 2015 by OmarComing25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 11:38 AM) That's probably true, but an outfield spot will open up for them once Fowler leaves. Avi would be a much cheaper (albeit less talented) alternative to Heyward/Upton/Cespedes/etc Where would Avi play? Center? That would be an amusing train wreck to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 12:19 PM) Where would Avi play? Center? That would be an amusing train wreck to say the least. Hey, we shouldn't be opposed to that as Sox fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 12:17 PM) Everyone is so set on having Thompson replace Avi full time next year, but what if Thompson struggles too? Then what? Then we have a bad hitter who plays good defense instead of a bad hitter who plays bad defense. The REAL plan should be to move Avi and then try to upgrade over Thompson the rest of the offseason, falling back on Thompson if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 01:13 PM) I like Avi... I also like Trayce. Found the below to be interesting. Avi in 2013 w/Sox .304 5HR, 21RBI. 161AB Trayce in 2015 w/Sox .295 5HR, 16RBI in 122AB Trayce also hit .234 in September and .231 in October. Those 2 months, reflected 90 of his 122 AB's of the season. (nearly 74%) Avi in 2013 w/ Sox 111 wRC+, 0.0 fWAR Trayce in 2015 w/ Sox 144 wRC+, 1.5 fWAR And that also ignores the part of 2013 where Avi was with the Tigers, in which he managed to be sub-replacement level alongside a 73 wRC+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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