GGajewski18 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Deadspin @Deadspin 1m1 minute ago Andy Van Slyke hints that Clayton Kershaw wants Yasiel Puig off the Dodgers: http://deadsp.in/cn8DmPd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 The Sox need to get Puig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Lets make that happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 If what Andy says is true, sounds like it wasn't just Grienke that has a problem with Puig. Glad Puig is the Dodgers problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 If we were close to a championship team id say no. But we're not. Go get him Hahn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 03:11 PM) If we were close to a championship team id say no. But we're not. Go get him Hahn I think the complete opposite. If you are close to a championship team, the winning could override any chemistry issues a player could cause. If you are young and/or rebuilding, adding a volatile player could make matters worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 This team couldn't any worse. We've been s*** for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 i have always had a problem with the idea of getting Puig. first and the exclusive one, the cost??? what will the cost be in prospects??? is this ok with J Abreu, remember they had a problem since coming to the states. is he a clubhouse cancer as the dodgers are claiming or is he too much of a prim-madonna those are my concerns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Sox FO should sit down to discuss the possibility of acquiring Puig amongst themselves, weigh the pros and cons, come to a consensus, and then do the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 03:24 PM) Sox FO should sit down to discuss the possibility of acquiring Puig amongst themselves, weigh the pros and cons, come to a consensus, and then do the opposite. So if the consensus is don't acquire him, acquire him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 03:33 PM) So if the consensus is don't acquire him, acquire him? Yes. And multiple World Series appearances will likely follow as long as they use this approach for most roster decisions going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyozuna Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 03:52 PM) Yes. And multiple World Series appearances will likely follow as long as they use this approach for most roster decisions going forward. So our FO should pull a Costanza......I agree 100%. If this is the case then the first thing to discuss is a long term extension for KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Hell no to Puig. Last thing Sox can afford is giving up someone like Quintana for Swisher 2.0 Wouldn't be surprised to see Puig to the Indians for Salazar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 If he doesn't require Quintana, I'd be all over this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 If it's cool with Abreu, its cool with me. Q for Puig and that catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) I heard Greg Amsinger on the radio today saying the same thing. Said he could see them trading Puig and signing Heyward. Correction: Actually, he was saying it about Greinke, and that he may not want to return if Puig was there. Edited November 19, 2015 by Leonard Zelig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 05:24 PM) Hell no to Puig. Last thing Sox can afford is giving up someone like Quintana for Swisher 2.0 Wouldn't be surprised to see Puig to the Indians for Salazar. FWIW Puig's first two years are better (by fWAR) then anything Swisher has ever done. 2015 Puig is troubling but I'm willing to take him on in the right move. Team needs to inject position player talent and high risk high reward moves are the type that need to be made. This isn't a team that will get anywhere playing it safe and making small upgrades that are likely to work but also likely to only add half a win here or there.. You need to make big moves that might pan out in order to go from 75ish wins to 85ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 06:37 PM) I heard Greg Amsinger on the radio today saying the same thing. Said he could see them trading Puig and signing Heyward. Correction: Actually, he was saying it about Greinke, and that he may not want to return if Puig was there. Greinke is such a b****. The way he beaned Q and then b****ed about it has always rubbed me the wrong way. Also he says a lot of dumbass s*** to the media about his team and team mates and the opposition and then falls back on the "I'm a misunderstood introvert" BS. No, you're just a dick dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 11:50 PM) FWIW Puig's first two years are better (by fWAR) then anything Swisher has ever done. 2015 Puig is troubling but I'm willing to take him on in the right move. Team needs to inject position player talent and high risk high reward moves are the type that need to be made. This isn't a team that will get anywhere playing it safe and making small upgrades that are likely to work but also likely to only add half a win here or there.. You need to make big moves that might pan out in order to go from 75ish wins to 85ish. Was referring to Swisher not fitting into the clubhouse after the Sox paid a huge price for him, only to have to dump him a year later for a terrible package Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 If the Dodgers just want to dump him, I'd gladly take him. Not straight up for Q though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 06:05 PM) If the Dodgers just want to dump him, I'd gladly take him. Not straight up for Q though. If the Sox were to acquire Puig, who would you trade for him? If Hahn could find some way to land him without giving up Sale, Q, or Rodon, I'd be f***ing ecstatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Yeah, to be honest I'm not exactly sure what a package for Puig would be at this point. I don't think Q should be required considering the year and willingness to sell. Going to guess the Dodgers would want pitching, however. I would do a deal surrounding Spencer Adams but not sure that is attractive at all to Dodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 08:00 PM) Was referring to Swisher not fitting into the clubhouse after the Sox paid a huge price for him, only to have to dump him a year later for a terrible package Well duh that was implied and I get it they are both headcases. I'm saying that Puig is arguably a better player in his first two years then Swisher has ever been in his much longer career. The upside is higher with Puig and the downside is what exactly? More s*** seasons? More getting little return on investment? Opportunity cost would be the big downside but hell who is he gonna block? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Nov 19, 2015 -> 06:32 PM) Opportunity cost would be the big downside but hell who is he gonna block? Blocking isn't the opportunity cost. The opportunity cost is using assets on Puig instead of improving several other positions. His D is less than exemplary as well. Sox need to build, not star-gaze. In one sense, though, he's the anti-Swisher. While Swisher didn't fit into the clubhouse, Puig's clowning would fit right in as long as Ventura is in charge. Building is the priority, so any consideration of Puig has to be at a steep discount. Edited November 20, 2015 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I read Molly Knight's great book about the Dodgers. In it are details about how the White Sox were all over Puig during the recruiting process. The Dodgers just offered so much more than anyone else even thought of offering. Pretty interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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