why not go for Brett lawrie?

[LDF]

Avi's value is pretty low but I can see a team like Oakland having some interest in him given his age and under team control for four more years. With the Sox pitching up and coming I think Beck is very expendable so maybe pairing Avi with Beck in a trade for Lawrie could work.

 

this is on a realm of a different logic, but lets look at EJ after last yr performance. the sox would be extremely lucky to find some one to take him.

 

well, a yr in the minors to rebuild his value or platooning with another player in the majors may do just that.

 

just my opinion.

[BlackSox13]

this is on a realm of a different logic, but lets look at EJ after last yr performance. the sox would be extremely lucky to find some one to take him.

 

well, a yr in the minors to rebuild his value or platooning with another player in the majors may do just that.

 

just my opinion.

Very true but will the Sox be willing to wait another year? A player like Lawrie coming off of a down year is the type of trade Avi would fit into so if Oakland showed interest then roll with it. Both teams would be banking on each players potential upside.

[Bigsoxhurt35]

Lawrie could be a nice buy low option. We need to get ourselves a Jose Quintana with the bat.

[LDF]

Very true but will the Sox be willing to wait another year? A player like Lawrie coming off of a down year is the type of trade Avi would fit into so if Oakland showed interest then roll with it. Both teams would be banking on each players potential upside.

 

very true.

[Bob Sacamano]

Very true but will the Sox be willing to wait another year? A player like Lawrie coming off of a down year is the type of trade Avi would fit into so if Oakland showed interest then roll with it. Both teams would be banking on each players potential upside.

 

What would be the plan after that deal then? Thompson in right? Acquire another outfielder making LaRoche and Thompson platoon partners (Thompson in left, Melky DH against lefties)?

[LDF]

What would be the plan after that deal then? Thompson in right? Acquire another outfielder making LaRoche and Thompson platoon partners (Thompson in left, Melky DH against lefties)?

 

i know your post wasn't meant for me, but who is say Thompson will continue to have that hot start. let alone if laroche will be the loroche before last season. it never hurts to have a contingency plan or players available.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

I'm probably in the minority, but I'd give up Anderson + Adams/Danish/etc for Longo.

 

Then I'd sign Ian Desmond to play short.

 

Where are the Sox going to get all this money to afford Longoria and Desmond ? The Sox are not spending big bucks this winter. Wouldn't that be somewhere around $20-25M per year for those 2 plus giving up prospects .

 

I know the Sox need another power bat but it's likely it's not going to be some big ticket free agent or a trade for some declining veteran with a big contract. Hahn must be working like crazy to try to fleece someone because their options are severely limited for those of you seeking some kind of miracle.

 

We might get a few minor upgrades and a few defensive upgrades but much more than that and I'd be shocked. The Sox will just be dealing in spare parts like Avila and hoping someone surprises them on the plus side for once instead of the acquisitions falling apart that has happened so much over the past few seasons. Why pay big money for guys to suck when a guy like Avila or Lawrie will be much more affordable to suck or possibly improve over their recent seasons ?

[LDF]

I'm probably in the minority, but I'd give up Anderson + Adams/Danish/etc for Longo.

 

Then I'd sign Ian Desmond to play short.

 

yes you are, longo may be on the downward spiral and anderson and adams alone will make this look terrible when all is said and done.

 

desmond, i am and was a huge fan of his and wanting to sign him, but nah not now. too much money.

[BlackSox13]

What would be the plan after that deal then? Thompson in right? Acquire another outfielder making LaRoche and Thompson platoon partners (Thompson in left, Melky DH against lefties)?

Thompson goes to RF and immediately upgrades the RF defense. One thing to keep in mind is that if the Sox are going to upgrade the OF defense then one of Avi/LaRoche or Melky needs to be traded or benched in order to make room. Of those three, Avi would be the easiest to trade despite his value being pretty low.

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

Pass on Lawrie. Don't want his character in the clubhouse.

[Y2Jimmy0]

Jim Bowden stated in his latest piece that WhiteSox top target is Todd Frazier with Brett Lawrie as the backup plan.

 

Chicago White Sox

Status: Retooling

Top target: Todd Frazier

 

The White Sox have been unable to get steady production from their third base spot for several years now, which is why they've targeted Cincinnati Reds third baseman Todd Frazier via trade. The Reds certainly will listen, though Frazier, a fan favorite, is the one player they'd prefer not to trade, thus their asking price for the All-Star third baseman is through the roof. I see it as highly unlikely these two teams will match up in a trade of this magnitude. The White Sox would then turn to the A's and Brett Lawrie, who is expected to be traded this winter.

 

Fall-back options: Lawrie, Pablo Sandoval, Trevor Plouffe, David Freese, Martin Prado

[Whisox05]

Jim Bowden stated in his latest piece that WhiteSox top target is Todd Frazier with Brett Lawrie as the backup plan.

 

Chicago White Sox

Status: Retooling

Top target: Todd Frazier

 

The White Sox have been unable to get steady production from their third base spot for several years now, which is why they've targeted Cincinnati Reds third baseman Todd Frazier via trade. The Reds certainly will listen, though Frazier, a fan favorite, is the one player they'd prefer not to trade, thus their asking price for the All-Star third baseman is through the roof. I see it as highly unlikely these two teams will match up in a trade of this magnitude. The White Sox would then turn to the A's and Brett Lawrie, who is expected to be traded this winter.

 

Fall-back options: Lawrie, Pablo Sandoval, Trevor Plouffe, David Freese, Martin Prado

 

Frazier definitely has more offense then lawrie. Tho what it might take to get Frazier might be out of the Sox price range. Alot of people complaining over the lack of power and Frazier would definitely help fill that gap. Abreu actually would have been second to homeruns this past year if Frazier was on the team. Lawrie still hasnt fully tapped in to his full potential so not sure what he can still be able to do. Lawrie is also younger but both have the same years of control left. Should be interesting

Edited November 29, 2015 by WhiteSoxLifer

[BigHurt3515]

I would LOVE Frazier on this team but it is going to take a lot

[ChiSoxFanMike]

I'd prefer Lawrie to Frazier to be honest. Sure, Frazier has more power and is a much better overall player now, but he would require much more in a trade than Lawrie would and he's also quite a bit older as well.

[BlackSox13]

If Cinci's price is indeed through the roof, and I believe it is, then I hope the Sox pull something off for Lawrie. The Sox farm is not in good enough shape yet to pull off a trade for a player that had the second half Frazier had. Forget Frazier, trade for Lawrie and then find a SS.

[LDF]

Pass on Lawrie. Don't want his character in the clubhouse.

 

what is it with his clubhouse character??

[LDF]

If Cinci's price is indeed through the roof, and I believe it is, then I hope the Sox pull something off for Lawrie. The Sox farm is not in good enough shape yet to pull off a trade for a player that had the second half Frazier had. Forget Frazier, trade for Lawrie and then find a SS.

 

that is what i was going to post... something like that.

 

remember if the price is not right, we walk. however the price is something that will be different from person to person.

 

Cincy is rebuilding. pitching, of'ers, for starters.... that is what they need... maybe another RP as well.

[ChiSoxFanMike]

If Cinci's price is indeed through the roof, and I believe it is, then I hope the Sox pull something off for Lawrie. The Sox farm is not in good enough shape yet to pull off a trade for a player that had the second half Frazier had. Forget Frazier, trade for Lawrie and then find a SS.

What kind of SS would you want the Sox to get if they did indeed acquire Lawrie? Would you prefer the Sox to get a guy on a long term deal (like Ian Desmond), or a 1 year stopgap (Asdrubal Cabrera, maybe even Alexei)?

Edited November 29, 2015 by ChiSoxFanMike

[LDF]

I would LOVE Frazier on this team but it is going to take a lot

 

he could... but who knows. i been after Frazier since trading deadline. trust me on this. even in my mock fantasy trade options, i had him. but as you said the cost.

[LDF]

What kind of SS would you want the Sox to get if they did indeed acquire Lawrie? Would you prefer the Sox to get a guy on a long term deal (like Ian Desmond), or a 1 year stopgap (Asdrubal Cabrera, maybe even Alexei)?

ss from the mets org Gavin Cecchini or Luis Guillorme for a yr or 2 but my fav for right now is Jeff McNeil. when anderson is ready, move them to 2b or play the better defensive player.

 

if not that option, 1 yr with Alexei at 5 mil or 6.

[Jose Abreu]

Todd Frazier is just what the Sox need- a low-mid batting average, power hitter from the NL

[Whisox05]

Todd Frazier is just what the Sox need- a low-mid batting average, power hitter from the NL

 

Even tho lawrie has played in AL he's the same as Frazier with alot less power.

[Baron]

Todd Frazier is just what the Sox need- a low-mid batting average, power hitter from the NL

 

They certainly dont need that 3.4 offensive WAR.

[Bob Sacamano]

They certainly dont need that 3.4 offensive WAR.

 

Basically. I'm cool with either. I think Frazier can plug into the 4-hole while I'm not sure where they'd start Lawrie at.

[BlackSox13]

What kind of SS would you want the Sox to get if they did indeed acquire Lawrie? Would you prefer the Sox to get a guy on a long term deal (like Ian Desmond), or a 1 year stopgap (Asdrubal Cabrera, maybe even Alexei)?

You had to ask.

 

I laugh at myself because I've been flip flopping back and forth on this today so the timing of your question cracks me up.

 

I do know I want no part of Desmond. I like the idea of Asdrubal at SS until Anderson is ready and then slide Asdrubal to 2B. My hangup is that defensively speaking, I really like what Saladino and Sanchez both have to offer and would like to see if they have more to offer with their bats. One minute I like the idea of Asdrubal ( was all on board just a few days ago) and the next minute I'm thinking the Sox should spend the money elsewhere and roll with either Saladino full time at SS or Sanchez full time at 2B. I really want to give Sanchez another year at 2B and see if he can progress more with the bat, I absolutely love his defense and that he's a switch hitter. Plus, I love screaming the word "Dirty!" when he hits the occasional HR.

 

If it were up to me I would try and pry Dee Gordon away from the Marlins. He isn't rumored to be available but I would see if the Marlins were willing to part with him and at what cost.

 

One idea could be to trade for Lawrie, play Saladino at SS, Sanchez at 2B and make a play for an outfield bat via trade. Someone like CarGo might be affordable to the SOX and they could use his power from the left side behind Abreu.