Quin Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 What is the speculation on the motivation of this one? Its not ISIS or anything right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 05:07 PM) What is the speculation on the motivation of this one? Its not ISIS or anything right? No idea at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Ho hum. Shrug. Stuff happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Obama and his false flag operations to try to take our guns away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 07:37 PM) Obama and his false flag operations to try to take our guns away. Hey Greg, you posted that with the wrong account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Oh well, what're you gonna do? Can we get back to the important topics of banning refugees and closing mosques and creating religious registries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Found a pipe bomb on one of the suspects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 07:08 PM) Hey Greg, you posted that with the wrong account. I should post this in the Republican thread, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Very sad. Bury your head in the sand if you think America is safe. You are in danger at work, at church, at the movies, at sporting events, walking down the street, sitting in your living room or on the porch. Better learn how to duck, as bullets might be coming at any time. Very very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 06:07 PM) What is the speculation on the motivation of this one? Its not ISIS or anything right? Right now the speculation seems to be that one of them was an ex employee there or somehow knew some of the people there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 One of the shooters identified http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-l...1202-story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxsoxsoxsox Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 attacked a Center for the Disabled wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 As someone with a FOID card I honestly don't understand the need to even manufacture automatic assault rifles. They aren't for hunting or personal protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 A workplace mass shooting by a Muslim? It's like Christmas for the cable news channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Planned Parenthood, Black Lives Matter and now this. So much terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 09:43 PM) As someone with a FOID card I honestly don't understand the need to even manufacture automatic assault rifles. They aren't for hunting or personal protection. Has there been any official statement as to what the guns were? All I have seen is 'long guns'. if you rely on witness descriptions, a single shot .22 can be an 'assault weapon'. And if they WERE automatic weapons, 99.9% chance he didn't acquire them legally, as they are almost impossible to get in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 As someone with a FOID card I honestly don't understand the need to even manufacture automatic assault rifles. They aren't for hunting or personal protection. These weren't automatic. Automatic = able to fire many bullets with a single pull of the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 07:43 AM) These weren't automatic. Automatic = able to fire many bullets with a single pull of the trigger. Sorry, Assault rifles in general. Semi-Auto assault rifles are pretty easily converted to fully auto though. I just dont understand their place in the world outside of the military. Edited December 3, 2015 by RockRaines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 11:18 PM) Has there been any official statement as to what the guns were? All I have seen is 'long guns'. if you rely on witness descriptions, a single shot .22 can be an 'assault weapon'. And if they WERE automatic weapons, 99.9% chance he didn't acquire them legally, as they are almost impossible to get in the US. Several reports have said the couple returned with "tactical gear and assault rifles." Both of which I dont understand their place in society. Home protection and hunting would be the last places for an assault rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 .223 assault rifles, which if I recall means probably AR-15's, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 08:12 AM) Several reports have said the couple returned with "tactical gear and assault rifles." Both of which I dont understand their place in society. Home protection and hunting would be the last places for an assault rifle. I suspect people still use them for hunting, but it's mostly for sport. I'm not a fan, and wouldn't have a problem with a ban on these weapons or at least a really stringent selection process, but I also don't see any difference between these assault weapons and really fancy sports cars. Both serve no real useful purpose, they're for hobbyists, and they both lead to unnecessary death. One to a larger degree than others, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Muslim, new Saudi Arabian bride partner, the weapons/gear... this wasn't your run of the mill "gone postal" shooting. Odd though that if it was pre-planned that he would still go to the office party in the morning. Edited December 3, 2015 by Jenksismybitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 09:04 AM) I suspect people still use them for hunting, but it's mostly for sport. I'm not a fan, and wouldn't have a problem with a ban on these weapons or at least a really stringent selection process, but I also don't see any difference between these assault weapons and really fancy sports cars. Both serve no real useful purpose, they're for hobbyists, and they both lead to unnecessary death. One to a larger degree than others, obviously. Sure maybe, except really good sport hunters tend to use single shot high powered rifles rather than AR-15's with massive clips. By definition very good hunters wont need to repeatedly pull the trigger and a relatively closer range than rifles. They are completely stupid in home defense. You want to limit the ability of bullets to break through drywall into other rooms. The largest gun you would need at home is a shotgun full of buckshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 09:12 AM) Sure maybe, except really good sport hunters tend to use single shot high powered rifles rather than AR-15's with massive clips. By definition very good hunters wont need to repeatedly pull the trigger and a relatively closer range than rifles. They are completely stupid in home defense. You want to limit the ability of bullets to break through drywall into other rooms. The largest gun you would need at home is a shotgun full of buckshot. I don't know a lot about them, but I do know those guns are highly customizable. I doubt hunters use them as machine guns to take down a deer or whatever. I'm with you on home defense. Maybe the theory is if an intruder sees that kind of gun they'd be scared off more than with a shotgun? I dunno. You'd certainly get more shots with that rifle over a shotgun though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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