Y2HH Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 12, 2016 -> 01:17 PM) Who cares? It makes for good discussion here for the people involved. I care. Hence the post. And "good discussion" is subjective...because these theories suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jan 12, 2016 -> 01:20 PM) I care. Hence the post. And "good discussion" is subjective...because these theories suck. If you want to discuss a theory and why it doesn't make sense, then go ahead. If you want to just diss the conversation going on in this thread, then just stay out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jan 12, 2016 -> 01:22 PM) If you want to discuss a theory and why it doesn't make sense, then go ahead. If you want to just diss the conversation going on in this thread, then just stay out. I already said why these theories make no sense...because they cater to the hard core fan base that Disney clearly doesn't give a f*** about. This trilogy is being written for casuals, and that's that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 post more about how posting in this thread is dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 12, 2016 -> 01:38 PM) post more about how posting in this thread is dumb Can't help it...I'm bored. Crap, I must have wandered into a Star Wars thread...one voice of dissent and all the crybaby star wars fans begin to cry...like babies...how totally not stereotypical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 ^ Closest thing to a tantrum in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 QUOTE (shysocks @ Jan 12, 2016 -> 01:49 PM) ^ Closest thing to a tantrum in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Similes on point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 QUOTE (shysocks @ Jan 12, 2016 -> 01:49 PM) ^ Closest thing to a tantrum in this thread. Fer realz. Come into a thread and complain and then call everyone else babies? Get over yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jan 12, 2016 -> 01:19 PM) The problem with Yoda's back story is it went from dark and mysterious to outrageously stupid and comical when a midget was doing flips like monkey while wielding a saber...and it looked -- as Robert Downey Jr. would say -- full on retard. ...and for the record, I really really liked parts 5, 6 and 7 (4 was also good, just not as good as those three). Parts 1-3 were an embarrassment. What was wrong with the Yoda fight? He was the leader of the Jedi, he better be strong in a fight. Of all the things to complain about from the prequels, this isn't one for me. You expect the leader of the Jedi to be cool in a fight and he did some cool s***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 12, 2016 -> 02:01 PM) Fer realz. Come into a thread and complain and then call everyone else babies? Get over yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jan 12, 2016 -> 01:50 PM) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (danman31 @ Jan 12, 2016 -> 09:17 PM) What was wrong with the Yoda fight? He was the leader of the Jedi, he better be strong in a fight. Of all the things to complain about from the prequels, this isn't one for me. You expect the leader of the Jedi to be cool in a fight and he did some cool s***. The entire scene was just terrible. I'd always imagined that due to his size, that instead of wielding a light saber and jumping around like a spider monkey, Yoda would have concentrated his studies more in force control, something he kind of eludes too when he trains Luke, in that it's not about size or strength...but belief. It was basically the opposite of everything I'd ever imagined due to the physical realities of Yoda. IMO, it would have been WAY cooler to see that same fight, but instead of wielding a light saber and flipping around for reasons*, Yoda used nothing but force control. * Those 'reasons', are the same reasons why Jar-Jar would needlessly do back flips into lakes, and when he spun his head, his ears would flop around. It was those same reasons why Anakin/Padme had a picnic with a backdrop of 50,000 waterfalls which connected to a tiny stream that slowly rushed by them...when all that water should have basically recreated a scene from Noah's Ark. All of that nonsense was nothing more then George Lucas having his CG team unnecessarily show off their technology/graphics skills, and it's something he did throughout the prequels. None of it added anything, and often times came across as green screen silliness, because that's exactly what it was. ^^ Adding to this point above, this is exactly why I loooooooved the light saber battle in Force Awakens...it was sloppy, unhinged, unpracticed, and all over the place. Basically, opposite of the WAY overly choreographed light saber battles throughout the prequels. And while that choreography may have looked cool at times, when I watch it now, it just looks silly...overly practiced, and unrealistic. Sword fights don't work that way, especially ones involving laser swords against foes you've never seen or faced before...and it messes with my ability to suspend reality. Even the fights in Empire/Return looked far better and less practiced (and those were being performed by trained jedi knights), as they should have, since Luke/Vader only faced each other 2 times in their lives...where as Darth Maul and the duo faced each other exactly once, and it looked like some sort of choreographed Michael Flatly Lord of the Dance routine. Edited January 13, 2016 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jan 13, 2016 -> 02:04 PM) The entire scene was just terrible. I'd always imagined that due to his size, that instead of wielding a light saber and jumping around like a spider monkey, Yoda would have concentrated his studies more in force control, something he kind of eludes too when he trains Luke. It was basically the opposite of everything I'd ever imagined due to the physical realities of Yoda. IMO, it would have been WAY cooler to see that same fight, but instead of wielding a light saber and flipping around for reasons*, Yoda used nothing but force control. * Those 'reasons', are the same reasons why Jar-Jar would needlessly do back flips into lakes, and when he spun his head, his ears would flop around, etc. It was those same reasons why Anakin/Padme had a picnic with a backdrop of 50,000 waterfalls which connected to a tiny stream that slowly rushed by them...when all that water should have basically recreated a scene from Noah's Ark. All of that nonsense was nothing more then George Lucas having his CG team unnecessarily show off their technology/graphics skills, and it's something he did throughout the prequels. None of it added anything, and often times came across as green screen silliness, which is what it was. ^^ Adding to this point above, this is exactly why I loooooooved the light saber battle in Force Awakens...it was sloppy, unhinged, unpracticed, and all over the place. Basically, opposite of the WAY overly choreographed light saber battles throughout the prequels. And while that choreography may have looked cool at times, when I watch it now, it just looks silly...overly practiced, and unrealistic. When applying even the tiniest bit of logic, sword fights don't work that way, especially ones involving laser swords against foes you've never seen or faced before. Even the fights in Empire/Return looked far better and less practiced (and those were being performed by trained jedi knights). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Jan 13, 2016 -> 08:17 AM) I don't know how I've never seen that before...but that's awesome...and it's exactly what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 QUOTE (danman31 @ Jan 12, 2016 -> 09:17 PM) What was wrong with the Yoda fight? He was the leader of the Jedi, he better be strong in a fight. Of all the things to complain about from the prequels, this isn't one for me. You expect the leader of the Jedi to be cool in a fight and he did some cool s***. If I may add...why the cane, Yoda? All of a sudden Yoda goes from old and decrepit to flipping like a gymnast. I agree, more force manipulation. But, 1-3 were just not good overall, so y'know, I deal with it. Because I'm a nerd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Finished rewatch f 4, 5, 6. Jedi doesn't hold up until the last 20 mins. Gets love because of New Hope and Empire IMO. Gonna watch, gulp, prequels next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 To be honest, after re-watching all 6 a couple weeks ago, Episode III may be my favorite. *prepares for tomatoes to the face* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 13, 2016 -> 09:34 PM) To be honest, after re-watching all 6 a couple weeks ago, Episode III may be my favorite. *prepares for tomatoes to the face* 3 was good until the NOOOOOOOO Vader moment. The laughably worst moment of the entire series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 13, 2016 -> 09:34 PM) To be honest, after re-watching all 6 a couple weeks ago, Episode III may be my favorite. *prepares for tomatoes to the face* I prefer Revenge of the Sith to Return of the Jedi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 13, 2016 -> 10:34 PM) To be honest, after re-watching all 6 a couple weeks ago, Episode III may be my favorite. *prepares for tomatoes to the face* I had no major issues with 3. Hell, I even liked 2 just as much. It was really episode 1 that I found horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 02:48 AM) I had no major issues with 3. Hell, I even liked 2 just as much. It was really episode 1 that I found horrible. As someone spoke of above -- that "nooooooooo" scene is embarrassingly bad...that should have been the moment of Vaders arrival on the scene, and it was just -- poorly directed, acted, ... it was poorly everything. It looked stupid, and sounded even stupider. It didn't do the Vader reveal justice in the least. f*** those prequels, they all sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Yeah 2 and even 3 wasn't horrible but they looked horrible and the dialogue was truly "I am. saying. something. right. now." Also, they just struck out so hard on the young vader actor. He was so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 to me 2 was ruined with the absolutely terrible romance between Padme and Anakin. No chemistry between the actors, abysmal writing, it just killed it. And i agree with end of 3 just killing it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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