DirtySox Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Sounds like something might be close. Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 6m6 minutes ago Sources: #Dodgers in talks to acquire Aroldis Chapman from #Reds for prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Why? They have Jansen who is a beast. Also, going after Iwakuma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 04:19 PM) Why? They have Jansen who is a beast. Also, going after Iwakuma. Could always flip Jansen to the Cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 04:19 PM) Why? They have Jansen who is a beast. Also, going after Iwakuma. Or to just give more depth to the bullpen. Chapman gets ninth and everyone else moves down a peg. Edited December 6, 2015 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 05:19 PM) Why? They have Jansen who is a beast. Also, going after Iwakuma. Without Greinke maybe they are thinking about going the Royals route of having an unhittable pen that shortens games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 04:32 PM) Without Greinke maybe they are thinking about going the Royals route of having an unhittable pen that shortens games. I think that's very likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN 13s13 seconds ago Source: There is growing confidence in the Dodgers organization that they're going to be able to finish Aroldis Chapman trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Dodgers want to finish off games early. Jansen was the only really reliable guy all year. Cubs want to go ahead and do the same thing along with the Astros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 This should be a very interesting haul for Cinci. Curious to see what the Dodgers give up if they do trade for Chapman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Not sure why, but I was kind of disappointed to see this. Was really hoping Greinke loss would allow doc to take advantage of a Q trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 10:25 PM) Could always flip Jansen to the Cubs. soooo many options will be at their disposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 06:18 PM) soooo many options will be at their disposal. I don't forsee it. Their GM has been on LA Radio the past two weeks. They want bullpen help. Plus it doesn't make sense to acquire Chapman just to dump Jansen contract wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 04:32 PM) Without Greinke maybe they are thinking about going the Royals route of having an unhittable pen that shortens games. Not a bad strategy today, but they better make sure Jansen is on board. Some closers don't take well to demotions, especially when not performance related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 09:37 PM) Not a bad strategy today, but they better make sure Jansen is on board. Some closers don't take well to demotions, especially when not performance related. Agreed. See 2015 Washington Nationals. It ended with the new closer strangling the team golden boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) Why aren't the Reds "going for it?" They had Cueto, Chapman and Leake. They had the great Bruce (see earlier threads fawning on this guy), Votto and the speedy Hamilton and the elite, the super duper, the best of the best Todd Frazier. They had Marlon Byrd and Brandon Phillips, both of whom outhit Melky. Why did they suck so badly with all of this elite talent? Seems like 1 or 2 pitchers would have put them over the top. Edited December 7, 2015 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 12:04 AM) Why aren't the Reds "going for it?" They had Cueto, Chapman and Leake. They had the great Bruce (see earlier threads fawning on this guy), Votto and the speedy Hamilton and the elite, the super duper, the best of the best Todd Frazier. They had Marlon Byrd and Brandon Phillips, both of whom outhit Melky. Why did they suck so badly with all of this elite talent? Seems like 1 or 2 pitchers would have put them over the top. Once they let go of Baker, it all fell apart. You can say maybe that team proved it cannot play up to its talents, but Dusty, for all the s*** he gets, got the most out of them like he did for the Cubs and Giants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS 2m2 minutes ago Chapman deal is agreed to with dodgers. 2 prospects to reds. (not seager, urias or deleon). Pending medicals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Rosenthal:BREAKING: #Dodgers agree to acquire Chapman from #Reds for two prospects. Deal is pending review of medical records, sources say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 09:34 AM) Rosenthal:BREAKING: #Dodgers agree to acquire Chapman from #Reds for two prospects. Deal is pending review of medical records, sources say. 2 prospects for a rent. Friedman has gone from Tampa to the hero worship cult in LA. In all seriousness, that probably gives them the most dominating back end in baseball, but listening to O'Dowd yesterday, it makes you wonder if this messes with Jansen. He mentioned the human element when Sean Casey said Jansen probably wouldn't mind if he was a set up guy if it meant wins. O'Dowd mentioned that Jansen really hasn't been paid yet, and a lot of his future earnings are tied into saves. Not closing games costs him money. Edited December 7, 2015 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 09:36 AM) 2 prospects for a rent. Friedman has gone from Tampa to the hero worship cult in LA. Depends on the prospects and if the Dodgers are able to extend Chapman which I'm sure they will try and do. Edit to your edit: ya, that set up/closer duo is going to be something in the 8th and 9th innings. Edited December 7, 2015 by BlackSox13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 12:36 AM) Once they let go of Baker, it all fell apart. You can say maybe that team proved it cannot play up to its talents, but Dusty, for all the s*** he gets, got the most out of them like he did for the Cubs and Giants. Wait, Dusty got the most out of the Cubs? He let the team implode in the 2003 NLCS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 09:42 AM) Wait, Dusty got the most out of the Cubs? He let the team implode in the 2003 NLCS. yeah what a horrible manager getting them within 2 games of the world series. Closer than whiz Joe Maddon did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I'll guess that it's Holmes and Verdugo to Cincinnati. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 09:36 AM) 2 prospects for a rent. Friedman has gone from Tampa to the hero worship cult in LA. In all seriousness, that probably gives them the most dominating back end in baseball, but listening to O'Dowd yesterday, it makes you wonder if this messes with Jansen. He mentioned the human element when Sean Casey said Jansen probably wouldn't mind if he was a set up guy if it meant wins. O'Dowd mentioned that Jansen really hasn't been paid yet, and a lot of his future earnings are tied into saves. Not closing games costs him money. I think this is real. Now, lucky for him, with the royals success even non-closers are getting paid 10 million per now if dominant. But this is certainly a risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 03:44 PM) I'll guess that it's Holmes and Verdugo to Cincinnati. wow, cincy just fleeced the dodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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