jasonxctf Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 i wonder how many terrorist gun attacks have a religious element to them? The last two clearly did... - Christian and PPP shooting in Colorado - Islam and San Bernadino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 i wonder how many terrorist gun attacks have a religious element to them? The last two clearly did... - Christian and PPP shooting in Colorado - Islam and San Bernadino Liberal responses were different though: Colorado shooting: "Blame all pro-lifers for the actions of one" California shooting: "Don't blame all Muslims for the actions of two" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 It's crazy how much better this world would be without religion. Sheep gonna sheep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (ron883 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 03:10 PM) It's crazy how much better this world would be without religion. Sheep gonna sheep agree, 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 02:05 PM) Liberal responses were different though: Colorado shooting: "Blame all pro-lifers for the actions of one" California shooting: "Don't blame all Muslims for the actions of two" When did all pro-life people get blamed for the Colorado shooting? I recall there being criticism of the politicians and propaganda-makers who stirred people up with the lies about PP selling baby parts, but no general condemnation of all pro-lifers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 How about we don't assume evil intent from a billion Christians or a billion Muslims based on these actions, considering neither religion endorses them? Both have, historically, been a part of awful things historically. Both have problems with people using the religion as an excuse for their violence. The nexus today is a little different. For Islam, it is significant swaths of people, sects and organizations, that are pushing violence. Modern Christianity isn't doing that, but they do have a problem with angry and hateful rhetoric that fosters an environment which may encourage bad acts. Either way, calling everyone who is part of organized religion "sheep" is empty platitude, and can just as easily apply to atheists or those in some smaller faith or spirituality. It also fully misses the point, which is people lacking an appreciate for life (something that can be a problem for any religion or lack thereof). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (ron883 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 03:10 PM) It's crazy how much better this world would be without religion. Sheep gonna sheep Wrong. QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 04:16 PM) agree, 100%. Disagree 100 percent. Don't worry, though. Christianity as a religion is going away. Too many Americans are afraid of offending anybody regarding race or religion ... except Christians. Ripping Christians is cool. Right, Bill Maher? Hey, quit saying Merry Christmas, Christians. It's offensive, you know?? There is no God. That baby that was born was nobody special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 01:37 PM) Wrong. Disagree 100 percent. Don't worry, though. Christianity as a religion is going away. Too many Americans are afraid of offending anybody regarding race or religion ... except Christians. Ripping Christians is cool. Right, Bill Maher? Hey, quit saying Merry Christmas, Christians. It's offensive, you know?? There is no God. That baby that was born was nobody special. Sounds more like you think your religion is the only one that matters, which is pretty much the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 08:37 PM) Don't worry, though. Christianity as a religion is going away. Too many Americans are afraid of offending anybody regarding race or religion ... except Christians. Get off your cross, Greg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 08:06 PM) Sounds more like you think your religion is the only one that matters, which is pretty much the issue. No, the issue is everybody is afraid of offending the PC police on Islam. Nobody is afraid of offending Christians. It's really pretty funny. QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 08:14 PM) Get off your cross, Greg. Why is it OK to blast and mock Christians and virtually nobody else in America? You try ripping Islam or any other religion? It's cool with me. I find it funny. Ditto Catholics. Every other organization or religion that had any problems with the abuse of kids ... it's covered correctly. That there are sick morons everywhere. But Catholics ... bring out the joke book. Cool with me. It's funny. But don't you dare imply Islam could be the cause of some of these horrific murders! Tell me what I say isn't true. Nah nobody will do that, they'll just rip Greg or make some one liner about Greg. Edited December 7, 2015 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (ron883 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 02:10 PM) It's crazy how much better this world would be without religion. Sheep gonna sheep Why would the world be better without religion? Give me some reasons. The world would be even worse than it is without religion IMO. It amazes me how religious people are fair game to be mocked when we accept your right to be atheist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 10:04 PM) Why is it OK to blast and mock Christians and virtually nobody else in America? It's not. Look at how many people are currently bashing Muslims. Major GOP candidates can do it and get applause. People trash atheists. People make fun of Hindus. There are countless conspiracy theories about Jews. People mock Wiccans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 02:37 PM) Don't worry, though. Christianity as a religion is going away. Too many Americans are afraid of offending anybody regarding race or religion ... except Christians. Ripping Christians is cool. Right, Bill Maher? Hey, quit saying Merry Christmas, Christians. It's offensive, you know?? There is no God. That baby that was born was nobody special. No it's not. That's quite the over reaction. QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 04:04 PM) No, the issue is everybody is afraid of offending the PC police on Islam. Nobody is afraid of offending Christians. It's really pretty funny. Why is it OK to blast and mock Christians and virtually nobody else in America? You try ripping Islam or any other religion? It's cool with me. I find it funny. Ditto Catholics. Every other organization or religion that had any problems with the abuse of kids ... it's covered correctly. That there are sick morons everywhere. But Catholics ... bring out the joke book. Cool with me. It's funny. But don't you dare imply Islam could be the cause of some of these horrific murders! Tell me what I say isn't true. Nah nobody will do that, they'll just rip Greg or make some one liner about Greg. Although you go about it in a very, well, interesting, way, your basic point here is actually pretty accurate. The PC police pretty much jumps on anyone and everyone nowadays at the smallest possible thing, but Christianity, along with fat people and old rich men apparently are always fair game. I do have to agree with your point there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 01:37 PM) Don't worry, though. Christianity as a religion is going away. Sure. There's only a couple billion people that identify as Christians. The religion that nearly 1/3 of the world's population follows is "going away". LOL QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 01:37 PM) Hey, quit saying Merry Christmas, Christians. It's offensive, you know?? I see this 2 and 3 times a day on my FB feed this time of year. Has anyone actually said this or even heard it said ever? Edited December 7, 2015 by Iwritecode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 10:24 PM) I see this 2 and 3 times a day on my FB feed this time of year. Has anyone actually said this or even heard it said ever? No, but there's no shortage of complaining over "Happy Holidays". "Merry Christmas" is the politically correct phrase to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 03:30 PM) No, but there's no shortage of complaining over "Happy Holidays". "Merry Christmas" is the politically correct phrase to use. I think it's the other way around. Everyone always posts how they are going to keep saying "Merry Christmas" instead of "Happy Holidays" and they don't care who they offend. I have yet to find a single person that is actually offended by either phrase. It's similar to the whole Starbucks cup thing. Edited December 7, 2015 by Iwritecode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 11:18 PM) I think it's the other way around. Everyone always posts how they are going to keep saying "Merry Christmas" instead of "Happy Holidays" and they don't care who they offend. Well that's because those people mistakenly think "Merry Christmas" is politically incorrect. But politically incorrect is a label tossed at phrases that get oversensitive people all worked up and offended, resulting in a demand to use a different phrase which those people prefer. In the case of Winter greetings, it's "Happy Holidays" that results in anger and demands to use "Merry Christmas". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 The problem is that nobody was ever offended in the first place. But at some point, somebody decided that someone, somewhere *may* be offended at some point in the future, so we better replace the phrase with something else. Now it's just become backlash to the backlash. It's also the reason kids can't have christmas or easter parties in school anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 10:26 PM) Well that's because those people mistakenly think "Merry Christmas" is politically incorrect. But politically incorrect is a label tossed at phrases that get oversensitive people all worked up and offended, resulting in a demand to use a different phrase which those people prefer. In the case of Winter greetings, it's "Happy Holidays" that results in anger and demands to use "Merry Christmas". I find it hard to believe in this gawdforsaken conservative state I NEVER hear Merry Christmas (except at church) and always hear Happy Holidays and you guys who live in big cities claim I'm wrong. The PC police are out big-time over not offending anybody who does not celebrate Christmas. Festivus is a cooler name anyway. It does bum me out that PC has taken over. That's one reason I want Trump to win. Edited December 7, 2015 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 05:58 PM) I find it hard to believe in this gawdforsaken conservative state I NEVER hear Merry Christmas (except at church) and always hear Happy Holidays and you guys who live in big cities claim I'm wrong. The PC police are out big-time over not offending anybody who does not celebrate Christmas. Festivus is a cooler name anyway. It does bum me out that PC has taken over. That's one reason I want Trump to win. This country would be wise to stay far the f*** away from religious zealots in politics and stick to making the country run. America survives because it's a beacon of diversity for all to come and enjoy. The moment this country trots down the theocracy path, it'll be downhill from there. America has become strong because it can nitpick the brightest minds of the world to come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 01:30 PM) No, but there's no shortage of complaining over "Happy Holidays". "Merry Christmas" is the politically correct phrase to use. Wait, people get pissed over happy holidays? Or is this more the christmas people getting mad that they can't say Merry Christmas? Life it too short, I just don't care. Family I married into is buddhist, my family is methodist. My wife's "Christmas" is more traditional than my Christmas. Speaking of Christmas, I want some prime f***ing rib. I keep wanting to push my family (probably cause its a free meal I don't have to cook) to ditch the turkey for Thanksgiving and go with Steak too. I eat turkey sandwiches way too much and I can only eat dark meat turkey and even than its usually disappointing in the grand scheme of things. So many other meats are tastier to celebrate arounda holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Nobody is prevented from saying "merry Christmas" that's what is annoying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 12:58 AM) I find it hard to believe in this gawdforsaken conservative state I NEVER hear Merry Christmas (except at church) and always hear Happy Holidays and you guys who live in big cities claim I'm wrong. The PC police are out big-time over not offending anybody who does not celebrate Christmas. Festivus is a cooler name anyway. It does bum me out that PC has taken over. That's one reason I want Trump to win. I see Christmas things everywhere. Where are all the people complaining about Merry Christmas? Nowhere. They're fictional The people demanding Merry Christmas ARE the PC police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 02:40 AM) Wait, people get pissed over happy holidays? Yup. Organizations like the AFA publish 'Naughty and Nice' lists where they boycott companies and stores that use Happy Holidays or anything that isn't explicitly Christian. Btw, keep pushing for that prime rib. I've made it the past couple years and it's the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Say what you want about Trump. He could give a bleep about the PC police. I love that about him. Now he's saying all Muslims must be kept out of USA. If Trump had any experience at all and could contain that ego a bit, I'd vote for him over and over. I'm sick of the malaise in our country and all the mass murders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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