EvilMonkey Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 07:42 PM) Nobody is prevented from saying "merry Christmas" that's what is annoying Go visit a school and watch their Christmas, I mean Winter Season, play. They have colleges with Diversity Departments warning people that even a Christmas tree would be bad form and not 'inclusive'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 08:56 AM) Go visit a school and watch their Christmas, I mean Winter Season, play. They have colleges with Diversity Departments warning people that even a Christmas tree would be bad form and not 'inclusive'. I have, public school district 300. My daughter sang Christmas songs, draedel song, and happy holidays. It wasn't nearly as bleached horrifying as you suggest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 08:56 AM) Go visit a school and watch their Christmas, I mean Winter Season, play. They have colleges with Diversity Departments warning people that even a Christmas tree would be bad form and not 'inclusive'. The elementary school my kid goes to does a "Winter Sing", but it is more than half Christmas songs, along with a lot of Jewish holiday tunes (our district does have a large Jewish population), and a couple secular wintery things. There are christmas trees and menorahs, and the usual decorations. Nothing sanitized about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 09:11 AM) I have, public school district 300. My daughter sang Christmas songs, draedel song, and happy holidays. It wasn't nearly as bleached horrifying as you suggest A rare district indeed. Hope the show was good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 08:56 AM) Go visit a school and watch their Christmas, I mean Winter Season, play. They have colleges with Diversity Departments warning people that even a Christmas tree would be bad form and not 'inclusive'. It's a solution to a "problem" that never existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I went to school with a Jehovah's Witness and we had "holiday parties" instead of "Christmas parties" and none of the kids actually cared. Do grown adults actually get upset if it's not called a "Christmas" party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 09:56 AM) Go visit a school and watch their Christmas, I mean Winter Season, play. They have colleges with Diversity Departments warning people that even a Christmas tree would be bad form and not 'inclusive'. My wife's a public school teacher. They can't do anything anymore. This year their Halloween parties were cancelled as well because a parent complained beforehand that they might be detrimental to their child's state of mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 10:47 AM) I went to school with a Jehovah's Witness and we had "holiday parties" instead of "Christmas parties" and none of the kids actually cared. Do grown adults actually get upset if it's not called a "Christmas" party? I'm a Christian and I don't give two s***s that people say Happy Holidays instead of Christmas anymore. However, in general, the politically correct police have grown completely out of control in recent years. Everyone is offended or bothered by something. Everything is always someone or something else's fault. And someone is always waiting with baited breath to file a lawsuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 "PC police". Glad this is a term that hasn't been overused. Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 09:58 AM) "PC police". Glad this is a term that hasn't been overused. Good job. "PC" is essentially meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 09:47 AM) My wife's a public school teacher. They can't do anything anymore. This year their Halloween parties were cancelled as well because a parent complained beforehand that they might be detrimental to their child's state of mind. Again with my kid's elementary school, they had a huge Halloween parade and everything. All the kids, and the teachers and even the principal, all dressed up for it. Maybe I'm just not seeing these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 03:56 PM) Go visit a school and watch their Christmas, I mean Winter Season, play. They have colleges with Diversity Departments warning people that even a Christmas tree would be bad form and not 'inclusive'. My son's school literally handed out Bibles last year. Trust me, schools not having enough Christianity in them isn't an issue in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=7056 UT-Knoxville’s set of guidelines suggests holiday parties should have no emphasis on religion or culture, but rather “build upon workplace relationships and team morale.” The school says these parties should never include religious or cultural games such as “Dreidel.” Additionally, if a gift exchange is planned, the university says calling it “Secret Santa” is inappropriate. Instead, the exchange should be referred to in a more general way, such as “practical joke gift exchange” or “secret gift exchange.” While specific recommendations were not given at the University of Illinois-Springfield, the school’s Holiday Resources page suggests employers should ensure their Holiday party is not a “Christmas party in disguise” and keep all decoration and food general and nonspecific to religion. When holding holiday parties, food should be general and not privilege any religion. Groups should strive for consensus and seek decisions on party themes that “everyone can live with.” Colleges are the worst, local schools, it pretty much depends on the neighborhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 "Cornell is fortunate to have members from diverse religions on campus. According to the Cornell United Religious Works, there are more than 25 religious organizations represented at Cornell. While there are many religions that have no religious holiday between November and January, and while many members of Cornell’s community do not practice a religion, the university encourages its members to respect differences in religious practices during this holiday season, and always. In an effort to create an inclusive environment". Respect differences in religious practices!!!!!!! How dare they respect other people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Sure, stuff like that makes my eyes roll too. But ultimately, like... how is it harming anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I guess I don't understand the problem with large public institutions with diverse staff and students not tailoring their official functions to one specific religion. Nothing will beat when our regional office had a "cultural diversity food day" a few years back during Ramadan, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 10:49 AM) "Cornell is fortunate to have members from diverse religions on campus. According to the Cornell United Religious Works, there are more than 25 religious organizations represented at Cornell. While there are many religions that have no religious holiday between November and January, and while many members of Cornell’s community do not practice a religion, the university encourages its members to respect differences in religious practices during this holiday season, and always. In an effort to create an inclusive environment". Respect differences in religious practices!!!!!!! How dare they respect other people! You can respect it without having to include everything in every party. Do the Muslim students include Jews or crosses in their after-Ramadan celebrations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 11:00 AM) I guess I don't understand the problem with large public institutions with diverse staff and students not tailoring their official functions to one specific religion. Nothing will beat when our regional office had a "cultural diversity food day" a few years back during Ramadan, though. I think people tire of bending to a very small minority. I'm usually with them. It's great to be different. We all don't have to be the exact same in every way. This country is predominately Christian. The vast majority of people celebrate Christmas. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't be inclusive to other peoples/religions as well, but it also doesn't mean we have to sanitize that tradition away. I also think big public institutions like schools cave based on some expected blow back that may never arise. The "PC" culture has made people ASSUME things will cause an uproar, so they react before anything happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 11:00 AM) I guess I don't understand the problem with large public institutions with diverse staff and students not tailoring their official functions to one specific religion. Nothing will beat when our regional office had a "cultural diversity food day" a few years back during Ramadan, though. I think people tire of bending to a very small minority. I'm usually with them. It's great to be different. We all don't have to be the exact same in every way. This country is predominately Christian. The vast majority of people celebrate Christmas. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't be inclusive to other peoples/religions as well, but it also doesn't mean we have to sanitize that tradition away. I also think big public institutions like schools cave based on some expected blow back that may never arise. The "PC" culture has made people ASSUME things will cause an uproar, so they react before anything happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I just think people want to be respectful of other religions and cultures. No one is trying to make everyone the same or stop Christmas. Such an overreaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I'm not really seeing it either. From my experience it seems people are just looking for a reason to get offended for no reason. I still don't understand the starbucks cup fiasco and I consider myself a relatively intelligent person. If you go looking for the trouble, you're bound to find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 09:47 AM) I went to school with a Jehovah's Witness and we had "holiday parties" instead of "Christmas parties" and none of the kids actually cared. I went to school with a Jehovah's Witness and we had Christmas parties, Valentine's Day parties, Halloween parties and he go to go home early on the day of the party. He didn't care, his family never made a big fuss about it and the rest of us got to enjoy ourselves. Now the kids don't get any classroom parties at all. QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 09:47 AM) Do grown adults actually get upset if it's not called a "Christmas" party? Google "the war on Christmas". Yes people get upset when things are renamed to be "holiday" parties, parades, plays, etc... instead of "Christmas". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 11:06 AM) I also think big public institutions like schools cave based on some expected blow back that may never arise. The "PC" culture has made people ASSUME things will cause an uproar, so they react before anything happens. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 11:28 AM) Google "the war on Christmas". Yes people get upset when things are renamed to be "holiday" parties, parades, plays, etc... instead of "Christmas". The "grown adults" line was supposed to be the giveaway. I can't believe what Christmas has come to today All these atheists and judges trying to take it away No carols in our public schools, no trees in City Hall And they wish you Season's Greetings at the shopping mall Ain't you sick of it all? Well, there's a war on Christmas, it's under attack But this year America's taking it back Separate church and state, that's what some lawyer said I say it's time we separated him from his head You can call me unchristian but that's not true 'Cause have I got a present for you It's the though that counts Christmas is as American as apple pie It's a late December version of the Fourth of July And they may go by a different name But Uncle Sam and Santa Claus are one and the same So boys take aim Well, there's a war on Christmas, it's under attack But this year America's taking it back Separate church and state, that's what some liberal said I say it's time we separated him from his head You can call me unchristian but that's not true Buddy I got a present for you I hope it's the right size Oh say can you see this Christmas Baby Jesus 'tis of thee I'm placing 50 shining stars atop The Statue of Liber-Tree Then I'll go and jingle the Liberty Bell Post Old Glory with an elf And if you say I can't deck my halls Then I'll deck you myself Well, there's a war on Christmas it's under attack Hey, this year Old Saint Nicholas is taking it back He's firing guns from his reindeer, dropping bombs from his sled This year if you were naughty, you're as good as dead He wears red and white, and you can throw in blue And has he got a present for you And St. Toby has got one too Yeah, we got a present for you As in the aclu Easy Rudolph, down boy Edited December 8, 2015 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I'm not a big follower of written religion anymore, by personal choice, and I really don't care what you follow or celebrate...if you're giving me free food and drinks, I'll still show up...regardless of the lies religion you choose to believe in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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