GGajewski18 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS 1m1 minute ago Reds have made everyone available, including todd frazier We all knew this, but there isn't a thread on it. Would still love to see him in a Sox uni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Somehow I hope Hahn pulls a trade off for Frazier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 well looking at the reds team and not their minor league, i only see Todd Frazier that would be enticing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Frazier, Phillips and Bruce are all available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Any concern that Frazier had a second half decline after his all-start first half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Without knowing the price, it's hard to know what to think. I'd like him at third, I don't want to deplete our little farm yet with so far to go in rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (spiderman @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 06:33 PM) Any concern that Frazier had a second half decline after his all-start first half? Wondering if the homerun derby affected him a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Would love Frazier on the Sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (spiderman @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 06:33 PM) Any concern that Frazier had a second half decline after his all-start first half? This has been brought up so many times. The answer is no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 MLB Tonight is broadcasting live form the Winter Meetings for those of you who can't get enough. It just started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) Stay far away from 2 year rents with .660 2nd half OPS'. Will do nothing but set the Sox back. Enough damage was done last year with clowning like this. Edited December 7, 2015 by GreenSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpd9189 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Frazier is the only one of those guys I'd want, Philips and Bruce are garbage. I think there's a trade to be made but the Sox won't get him for B and C level prospects. You're probably looking at a deal that involves Anderson or Fulmer. Most likely Fulmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 07:05 PM) Stay far away from 2 year rents with .660 2nd half OPS'. Will do nothing but set the Sox back. Enough damage was done last year with clowning like this. Is there anybody that you would actually want? I bet if Mike Trout hit the market you would find some way to talk yourself into thinking he isnt good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 07:05 PM) Stay far away from 2 year rents with .660 2nd half OPS'. Will do nothing but set the Sox back. Enough damage was done last year with clowning like this. The second half ops is still higher then the sox total production at 3rd. He hit a .922 on the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I want nothing to do with Frazier. Absolutely nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 01:05 AM) Frazier is the only one of those guys I'd want, Philips and Bruce are garbage. I think there's a trade to be made but the Sox won't get him for B and C level prospects. You're probably looking at a deal that involves Anderson or Fulmer. Most likely Fulmer. Can't trade Fulmer. Not that I believe they would even consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) How about actually rebuilding? What good does Frazier do? Keep these prospects and build that way. Every year the same discussion is brought up. Frazier doesn't make the Sox a playoff team in 2016. Signing a 3B over 30 who had a rough 2nd half combined with the fact that their best prospect- Fulmer- would have to be involved is a horrible idea. Edited December 7, 2015 by soxfan49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I'd definitely trade for Frazier but Anderson and Fullmer are without a doubt off the table. Montas, Micah, Avi? If it took 1 more piece I might throw in 1 of Engle/May or Guerrero but that's about as far as I'd go. Not sure if that would be enough, but if it's not I'd look else where. He's a nice piece, but he alone it's turning us into a playoff team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 07:28 PM) How about actually rebuilding? What good does Frazier do? Keep these prospects and build that way. Every year the same discussion is brought up. Frazier doesn't make the Sox a playoff team in 2016. Signing a 3B over 30 who had a rough 2nd half combined with the fact that their best prospect- Fulmer- would have to be involved is a horrible idea. Where is the evidence that Fulmer would have to be involved? Frazier doesnt make the Sox a contender by himself but his 3.4 oWar and 4.6 last year is a really good start to putting them in that race. I highly doubt that the White Sox will fill 3rd base and then stop trying to upgrade at all other positions. Edited December 7, 2015 by Baron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Guys Fulmer can't be traded so don't worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 07:28 PM) How about actually rebuilding? What good does Frazier do? Keep these prospects and build that way. Every year the same discussion is brought up. Frazier doesn't make the Sox a playoff team in 2016. Signing a 3B over 30 who had a rough 2nd half combined with the fact that their best prospect- Fulmer- would have to be involved is a horrible idea. So how do you expect the Sox to get the position players they need for future in catcher, 3rd baseman, among others. Sox can't draft and really develop position players. Only real development they do is pitchers which is a huge wanted commodity. So Sox trade pitching to get the position players they don't have. Definitely wouldn't be trading fulmer even though right now can't be traded Edited December 7, 2015 by WhiteSoxLifer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 08:11 PM) Is there anybody that you would actually want? I bet if Mike Trout hit the market you would find some way to talk yourself into thinking he isnt good enough. Lol nope. He probably wants us to stay pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I'm not sure myself so throwing it out there: If we were to trade for Frazier (not involving fullmer/anderson) and then sign 2 marginally priced free agents would we be legit contenders for at least a wild card spot? Say Gerrardo Parra and Asdrubal Cabrerra. C- Avila/Navarro 1b- Abreu 2b- Cabrerra 3b- Frazier ss- Saladino/sanchez lf- Melky cf- Eaton rf- Parra/Thompson dh- Laroche/Thompson Same rotation with EJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 07:47 PM) I'm not sure myself so throwing it out there: If we were to trade for Frazier (not involving fullmer/anderson) and then sign 2 marginally priced free agents would we be legit contenders for at least a wild card spot? Say Gerrardo Parra and Asdrubal Cabrerra. C- Avila/Navarro 1b- Abreu 2b- Cabrerra 3b- Frazier ss- Saladino/sanchez lf- Melky cf- Eaton rf- Parra/Thompson dh- Laroche/Thompson Same rotation with EJ How does Thompson platoon with 2 guys in this scenario? Neither Parra not LaRoche should play against lefties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 07:59 PM) How does Thompson platoon with 2 guys in this scenario? Neither Parra not LaRoche should play against lefties. I'm assuming that Thompson would play against the lefties and Parra/LaRoche would play against the righties. Correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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