fathom Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN 15m15 minutes ago Official on Reds' efforts to move Todd Frazier: "I wouldn't be surprised if he got traded." At this point, not enough traction in CLE talks. To me, it seems like the Indians could put together a much stronger package with Salazar leading the way. Edited December 9, 2015 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 So we've only heard Sox and Indians. Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:21 PM) So we've only heard Sox and Indians. Anyone else? Rangers for LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 04:20 PM) Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN 15m15 minutes ago Official on Reds' efforts to move Todd Frazier: "I wouldn't be surprised if he got traded." At this point, not enough traction in CLE talks. To me, it seems like the Indians could put together a much stronger package with Salazar leading the way. Let them be the ones to overpay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) Two years of Todd Frazier (and not awful pricing for those two years, either) is totally worth Tim Anderson. We can't be delusional about our prospects. Tim Anderson is Top 50 but in so many other farm systems he would not be the #1. Defense and Ks have not been solved. It's a very fair price for a legit all-star 3b who is not old. Edited December 9, 2015 by Jose Paniagua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 04:29 PM) Two years of Todd Frazier (and not awful pricing for those two years, either) is totally worth Tim Anderson. We can't be delusional about our prospects. Tim Anderson is Top 50 but in so many other farm systems he would not be the #1. Defense and Ks have not been solved. It's a very fair price for a legit all-star 3b who is not old. Not when we have as many holes as we do. If Frazier was one of the final pieces to put us over the top, then yeah sure trade Anderson for him. But he's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 04:35 PM) Not when we have as many holes as we do. If Frazier was one of the final pieces to put us over the top, then yeah sure trade Anderson for him. But he's not. You're right, but if you can get Frazier and Phillips, and then sign Upton or Cespedes, this team will look like a contender.... L - Eaton R - Phillips R - Abreu S - Melky R - Upton/Cespedes R - Frazier L - LaRoche L/R - Navila R - Saladino I mean, that's a pretty formidable line-up. Then when you consider how good our rotation is, I think we are immediately a 86-88 win team. The only problem I see there is that would add about $45M in payroll ($23-$25M for Upton, $13M for Phillips, $7.5M for Frazier) for 2016. However, Danks and LaRoche come off the books for 2017, so that's $27M off the books. I think it's doable. Edited December 9, 2015 by Chilihead90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Hahn coy on 3B (Lawrie). "exploring multiple options." No timeline on anything, he says https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/674719132475105280 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 White Sox looking at multiple options at 3B. Hahn on Lawrie rumors: Why certain notions gain steam and others don’t I can't explain." https://twitter.com/ChuckGarfien/status/674726963098054656 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Dick Williams on MLB Network right now. Going to announce a Frazier to White Sox trade. I wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Williams was very open about rebuilding and reloading their minor leagues. Said Frazier is available for sure, but they don't want to move Votto. Garfein just tweeted that the Sox are in on Frazier, but price is too high (Obviously. If the price was just right, a deal would be made). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 White Sox have been linked to Asdrubal Cabrera and checked in on Todd Frazier, so we can assume they are in the mix as well. Could be more https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/674733822055989249 Hearing White Sox are in on Reds 3B Todd Frazier. Reds are asking for more than White Sox are willing to give up. Price has to come down. https://twitter.com/ChuckGarfien/status/674734473674641408 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Names we've heard #WhiteSox linked to for 3B this week: Brett Lawrie, Todd Frazier, Asdrubal Cabrera. https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/674736915443265537 Rick Hahn said White Sox are still exploring multiple options at third base, but says talks have become "more substantive." https://twitter.com/ChiTribKane/status/674736972485820420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 If I'm #Reds & aiming for best possible return for Todd Frazier, I start w/ Tim Anderson & I don't think #WhiteSox really want to do that. https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/674737571877011456 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Anderson isn't a can't miss guy. People still question his defense and his ability to make contact. Not worth denying all-star worthy talent to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 05:53 PM) Anderson isn't a can't miss guy. People still question his defense and his ability to make contact. Not worth denying all-star worthy talent to keep. If you trade Anderson to get Frazier. Sox MUST SIGN Upton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 07:02 PM) If you trade Anderson to get Frazier. Sox MUST SIGN Upton. Do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear_brian Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 06:02 PM) If you trade Anderson to get Frazier. Sox MUST SIGN Upton. Totally agree - or Cespedes or trade for CarGo. Frazier by himself does not do enough to warrant losing top prospects. Frazier and Upton - assuming we don't lose any of our starting pitchers - would allow us to compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 06:02 PM) If you trade Anderson to get Frazier. Sox MUST SIGN Upton. Upton, or Cespedes, or Gordon, yeah. You obviously can't half ass it when he only has 2 years left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 A lineup with Frazier & Upton & a trade of LaRoche while eating some money LF Eaton (L) DH Cabrera (S) 1B Abreu RF Upton 3B Frazier C Navarro/Avila (S) (L) CF Thompson 2B Sanchez SS Saladino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear_brian Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 06:09 PM) A lineup with Frazier & Upton & a trade of LaRoche while eating some money LF Eaton (L) DH Cabrera (S) 1B Abreu RF Upton 3B Frazier C Navarro/Avila (S) (L) CF Thompson 2B Sanchez SS Saladino If we only knew that Laroche would bounce back - to at least 20+ HR's - he would make that lineup more balanced with the addition of a LH power bat. Probably just more wishful thinking, though ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 Last day of the meetings is tomorrow, correct? If so, is there usually any action on the last day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 06:15 PM) Last day of the meetings is tomorrow, correct? If so, is there usually any action on the last day? It's usually just pack your bags, do the rule 5 and go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 06:15 PM) Last day of the meetings is tomorrow, correct? If so, is there usually any action on the last day? Not really. Most GMs leave after Rule 5 draft but something can still go down late tonight. Night is still young and anything is possible with GMs staying under the same roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 06:18 PM) Not really. Most GMs leave after Rule 5 draft but something can still go down late tonight. Night is still young and anything is possible with GMs staying under the same roof. Tonight will be busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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