Knackattack Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 06:00 PM) I'm assuming that Thompson would play against the lefties and Parra/LaRoche would play against the righties. Correct me if I'm wrong. Yeah Trayce will play RF for Parra and then just take LaRoche's ab's from the DH position. Just gotta make sure you ensure he won't ever have to come up to hit if he is on base, have fun with that Robin! Edited December 7, 2015 by Knackattack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 08:00 PM) I'm assuming that Thompson would play against the lefties and Parra/LaRoche would play against the righties. Correct me if I'm wrong. Well Thompson can't play 2 positions in the starting lineup. Edited December 7, 2015 by soxfan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (Knackattack @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 08:03 PM) Yeah Trayce will play RF for Parra and then just take LaRoche's ab's from the DH position. Just gotta make sure you ensure he won't ever have to come up to hit if he is on base, have fun with that Robin! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 08:59 PM) How does Thompson platoon with 2 guys in this scenario? Neither Parra not LaRoche should play against lefties. Didn't say it was a bullet proof plan lol. Didn't even realize Para was that bad against lefties. Just throwing a general scenario out there. Basically, would adding 1 slightly above average middle IF and OF to go with Frazier be enough to propel us to the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 07:37 PM) Guys Fulmer can't be traded so don't worry. He can be traded as a player to be named later similar to how trea Turner was traded last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 08:10 PM) He can be traded as a player to be named later similar to how trea Turner was traded last season Wasn't there a minor change to that rule so that can't happen like that again? Like player to be named later has to be resolved sooner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 08:12 PM) Wasn't there a minor change to that rule so that can't happen like that again? Like player to be named later has to be resolved sooner? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Last I read Cinci was asking for MLB ready talent in return for Frazier. Do the Sox have enough of that to trade for Frazier? I could see them being interested in Thompson but who else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 06:27 PM) Last I read Cinci was asking for MLB ready talent in return for Frazier. Do the Sox have enough of that to trade for Frazier? I could see them being interested in Thompson but who else? I mean lets say Fulmer and Anderson are off limits... You gotta hope at that point that Montas is a good enough starting point and then let them take their pick of everyone else, but I have a feeling that the Reds are going to make some one pay something crazy for him, they are trying to rebuild that Franchise and Frazier is their best chip, if I'm them the conversation starts with Rodon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Please no. Cincy will get a big package of prospects for him from someone. He's only around for 2 seasons. This is the exact opposite of the sort of thing we should do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Knackattack @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 08:30 PM) I mean lets say Fulmer and Anderson are off limits... You gotta hope at that point that Montas is a good enough starting point and then let them take their pick of everyone else, but I have a feeling that the Reds are going to make some one pay something crazy for him, they are trying to rebuild that Franchise and Frazier is their best chip, if I'm them the conversation starts with Rodon. If the conversation starts with Rodon, then I pray to god that Hahn is smart enough to hang up the phone. Rodon is going to be a star in this league and I would cry if Hahn traded him for 2 years of Todd Frazier. Edited December 7, 2015 by ChiSoxFanMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 06:32 PM) If the conversation starts with Rodon, then I pray to god that Hahn is smart enough to hang up the phone. Rodon is going to be a star in this league and I would cry if Hahn traded him for 2 years of a Todd Frazier. I agree 100%, but they need to get value for him and if it doesn't present itself they can hope he posts another .990 OPS in the 1st half then trade him for a haul come July when some team is 1 player away from a playoff push Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Sox just don't have the pieces the Reds are looking for. One reason Lawrie is a better fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (Knackattack @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 08:30 PM) I mean lets say Fulmer and Anderson are off limits... You gotta hope at that point that Montas is a good enough starting point and then let them take their pick of everyone else, but I have a feeling that the Reds are going to make some one pay something crazy for him, they are trying to rebuild that Franchise and Frazier is their best chip, if I'm them the conversation starts with Rodon. I agree. The Sox need a 3B but I don't think they have enough of what Cinci is looking for or to compete with another team in a trade. I could be wrong but I just don't see it. Maybe it's my biased towards the idea of trading for him due to cost and second half performance. I'd rather try to find someone else for 3B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 08:31 PM) Please no. Cincy will get a big package of prospects for him from someone. He's only around for 2 seasons. This is the exact opposite of the sort of thing we should do. 2 years and very likely a comp pick if he leaves. If we can get him without giving up Anderson or Fulmer, then I'm all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 07:40 PM) So how do you expect the Sox to get the position players they need for future in catcher, 3rd baseman, among others. Sox can't draft and really develop position players. Only real development they do is pitchers which is a huge wanted commodity. So Sox trade pitching to get the position players they don't have. Definitely wouldn't be trading fulmer even though right now can't be traded What's the plan then? Forever trade any marginally solid prospects for veterans who are good but not great? We can't use this excuse for the rest of eternity. Eventually you have to s*** or get off of the pot. If their scouts truly can't find a hitter and their minor league coaches can't develop them, the organization is f***ed. QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 07:37 PM) Guys Fulmer can't be traded so don't worry. Yes he can be. QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 07:37 PM) Where is the evidence that Fulmer would have to be involved? Frazier doesnt make the Sox a contender by himself but his 3.4 oWar and 4.6 last year is a really good start to putting them in that race. I highly doubt that the White Sox will fill 3rd base and then stop trying to upgrade at all other positions. I have no evidence. It's rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 06:33 PM) Without knowing the price, it's hard to know what to think. I'd like him at third, I don't want to deplete our little farm yet with so far to go in rebuild. That's my concern. What is the farm system ranked right now? 15-20th overall? They have pitchers, not many hitters? They need to be developing as many as they can for the White Sox else they will continue to be stuck in this perpetual off-season of having to overspend on free agents to fill holes. Can they afford to be moving 2-3 of their better prospects for Frazier (or anyone else)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 06:35 PM) Wondering if the homerun derby affected him a bit You mean his swing got messed up? Wasn't last season more of a career year than a year we should normally expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 06:59 PM) This has been brought up so many times. The answer is no. Why? Do you think he can repeat last year's numbers? If not, what do you think is reasonable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) Oh boy, let's see who we can trade for a 2 year rent .660 OPS with stilted home/away splits. The Sox will still suck, but we can "Dream" until mid April, when reality will set in. And we'll have a participant on home-run derby! Edited December 7, 2015 by GreenSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 as much i like and wanted Todd Frazier on this team, i would have no problem if the sox went a different route if the price is too much in ref to players and prospects being traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Fulmer can be traded. That rule was changed last year after the Trea Turner nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 08:19 PM) No. Yes, actually. Instead of 12 months, it's 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 07:05 PM) Stay far away from 2 year rents with .660 2nd half OPS'. Will do nothing but set the Sox back. Enough damage was done last year with clowning like this. I don't want Frazier because the Reds will want way too much, but you might have the most recency bias of anyone on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 07:23 PM) Can't trade Fulmer. Not that I believe they would even consider it. QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 07:37 PM) Guys Fulmer can't be traded so don't worry. QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 08:10 PM) He can be traded as a player to be named later similar to how trea Turner was traded last season QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 10:52 PM) Fulmer can be traded. That rule was changed last year after the Trea Turner nonsense To be clear here, draft picks can be traded after the World Series, and can't ever be PTBNL before the World Series. The rules were changed last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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