GGajewski18 Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 If the Sox sign Freese, I will not attend a game. He is not what this team needs. Especially spending 10 million a year on him through his 33-35 aged years when you know he'll miss at least 20-25 games each year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (kevo880 @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 01:04 PM) Rosenthal's latest blurb: http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/price-h...osenthal-121515 "WHY WHITE SOX MIGHT BALK AT FRAZIER Frazier certainly is a fit at third base and in the middle of the lineup for the White Sox; newly acquired Brett Lawrie could move to second, giving the Sox upgrades at two positions. The problem is, the Reds want significant prospects for two years of Frazier, and the White Sox's system remains relatively thin. Better the team should explore the open market -- if it can find the right solution. A free agent such as second baseman Howie Kendrick would cost the Sox a second-round draft pick; their first-round pick, No. 10 overall, is protected. But Kendrick also has turned down $15.8 million from the Dodgers, and at 32 soon could enter his decline phase. Third baseman David Freese might make more sense -- he probably would be more affordable than Kendrick and the Angels did not make him a qualifying offer, removing the additional cost of a pick." The White Sox would not forfeit their 2nd rounder. It'd be the Samardzija pick that they forfeit which is currently #29 and climbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 01:19 PM) If the Sox sign Freese, I will not attend a game. He is not what this team needs. Especially spending 10 million a year on him through his 33-35 aged years when you know he'll miss at least 20-25 games each year. lmao, take a stand. FREESE WILL MAKE ME NOT GO TO GAMES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 01:21 PM) lmao, take a stand. FREESE WILL MAKE ME NOT GO TO GAMES That's right! lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I really don't see Freese as a match for them at this point. Might as well just role with Lawrie for half the price and keep Sanchez at 2B. Atleast the defense will be solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 07:52 PM) I really don't see Freese as a match for them at this point. Might as well just role with Lawrie for half the price and keep Sanchez at 2B. Atleast the defense will be solid. that is an option, one way or another, if it is not now, it has to be done next yr, the sox will need to address that 3b postion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 12:05 PM) Bob Nightengale @BNightengale 17s17 seconds ago The Cincinnati #Reds drawing extensive interest from AL Central teams who want Todd Frazier:#Indians, #Whitesox, #Royals.Also #Dodgers in NL I'd love to see Hahn drive the price up on Frazier for the Royals and Indians and then walk away with Jay Bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I want nothing to do with Jay Bruce. Absolutely nothing. He's not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 08:07 PM) I want nothing to do with Jay Bruce. Absolutely nothing. He's not good. i agree 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 03:06 PM) I'd love to see Hahn drive the price up on Frazier for the Royals and Indians and then walk away with Jay Bruce. I'd be as well served by a replacement level player than Jay Bruce. We are so bad that of course he could pass as our DH, but that would have to be a pure scrap heap zero-given-up acquisition. Edited December 15, 2015 by Jose Paniagua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 02:07 PM) I want nothing to do with Jay Bruce. Absolutely nothing. He's not good. Season Home / Away BB% K% BB/K AVG OBP SLG OPS ISO BABIP wRC wRAA wOBA wRC+ 2015 Away 9.30% 22.90% 0.41 0.217 0.292 0.421 0.714 0.204 0.246 35 -2.8 0.303 89 2015 Away 5.80% 22.60% 0.26 0.233 0.285 0.448 0.733 0.215 0.257 39 -0.2 0.312 96 The difference between the two on the road last season (since if they are traded they won't be playing in Great America anymore. I don't see enough of a difference to justify giving up top tier prospects when the other is younger and can be had for a more reasonable package of prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 01:19 PM) If the Sox sign Freese, I will not attend a game. He is not what this team needs. Especially spending 10 million a year on him through his 33-35 aged years when you know he'll miss at least 20-25 games each year. I won't go that far but Freese is a worst case scenario for me. I'd much prefer a Lawrie-Saladino-Sanchez infield that a Freese-Saladino/Sanchez-Lawrie infield. That is $10M in AAV that needs to be spent on a better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 07:07 PM) I'm thinking the Freese scenario is most likely. Sign Freese and Cespedes, keep draft picks and prospects. Freese had a good World Series for the Cards. He hasn't lived up to expectations since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 02:19 PM) I'd be as well served by a replacement level player than Jay Bruce. We are so bad that of course he could pass as our DH, but that would have to be a pure scrap heap zero-given-up acquisition. That's likely all it would end up being. Bruce's 2015 isn't all that different from what we can reasonably expect from LaRoche next year. I'd rather have Bruce because of his age and option year, but we can't have both, and since clearing LaRoche means sending money with him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 Sports Mockery suggested we trade Quintana, Avi, and Sanchez for Frazier lolol. I chewed them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 08:36 AM) Sports Mockery suggested we trade Quintana, Avi, and Sanchez for Frazier lolol. I chewed them up. Good for you! That's hilarious because Frazier isn't worth Q in a 1-1 trade. I think Dusek is an example of what GreenSox talks about when he says "hero love/worship". I know the term is used alot but in this case it clearly fits. Not trying to take anything away from Frazier but that package is just preposterous. Edited December 16, 2015 by BlackSox13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 02:28 PM) Freese had a good World Series for the Cards. He hasn't lived up to expectations since. he has been pretty solid to good for his entire career http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/freesda01.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/i...ed?sf17081510=1 Some stuff on Frazier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 05:13 PM) http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/i...ed?sf17081510=1 Some stuff on Frazier nice find, i think they are missing some players there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 12:19 PM) /thread Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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