Jose Abreu Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 12:58 PM) Response to the "Stay Down Until You Come Up 100" tweet: Rick Slattery @rickslat123 3m3 minutes ago @TimAnderson7 enjoy Oakland. But glad to see Shark and Upton on the southside. Could be a random guy, or could be his best friend. Rickslat is just a troll. See my post from last year's Samardzija rumors ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 Sign OF Justin Upton 6 years/125 million Trade OF Trayce Thompson and SP Chris Beck for 3B Brett Lawrie Trade 1B Adam LaRoche, SP Frankie Montas, OF Avisail Garcia, and SP Tyler Danish for OF Carlos Gonzalez CF Adam Eaton (L) DH Melky Cabrera (S) 1B Jose Abreu LF Carlos Gonzalez (L) RF Justin Upton 3B Brett Lawrie C Alex Avila/Dioner Navarro 2B Carlos Sanchez (L) SS Tyler Saladino Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 02:52 PM) Rickslat is just a troll. See my post from last year's Samardzija rumors ^ Weren't the Sox extremely close to acquiring Upton last off-season? So couldn't he have been right on Shark and wrong on Upton previously? Kenny was supposedly pretty ticked we didn't end up with Upton last off-season. I presume Anderson would have been a part of that deal with the Braves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Where's kOna when you need him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 05:03 PM) Weren't the Sox extremely close to acquiring Upton last off-season? So couldn't he have been right on Shark and wrong on Upton previously? Kenny was supposedly pretty ticked we didn't end up with Upton last off-season. I presume Anderson would have been a part of that deal with the Braves. Well, everyone knew we were getting Shark. It was heavily rumored weeks before the winter meetings. This guy wrongly assumed Anderson was being traded to Oakland. He has 30 followers and 75% of his tweets are "[insert team here] signs [insert player here] to a [insert length and money here] contract.", then he deletes the ones that end up being obnoxiously wrong. Edited December 7, 2015 by Jose Abreu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 04:58 PM) Sign OF Justin Upton 6 years/125 million Trade OF Trayce Thompson and SP Chris Beck for 3B Brett Lawrie Trade 1B Adam LaRoche, SP Frankie Montas, OF Avisail Garcia, and SP Tyler Danish for OF Carlos Gonzalez CF Adam Eaton (L) DH Melky Cabrera (S) 1B Jose Abreu LF Carlos Gonzalez (L) RF Justin Upton 3B Brett Lawrie C Alex Avila/Dioner Navarro 2B Carlos Sanchez (L) SS Tyler Saladino Thoughts? If they go all in like that, I'm 99.9% sure that Saladino wouldn't be the starting shortstop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 05:08 PM) Where's kOna when you need him Man I havent heard anything from him since i think the Edwin Jackson trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 05:51 PM) Man I havent heard anything from him since i think the Edwin Jackson trade Haven't heard form Bucket in a long time as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 How much / what will the difference in cost / years be between Gordon and Upton? Is Upton going to get more money and more years while Gordon provides actual better production (kind of like he has past few years)? I presume Royals are going to ensure they won't be beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Seemed to me like Royals are ready to move on from Gordon. I feel like Upton may come cheaper as thanks to a monster second half from Cespedes and the exposure for Gordon winning the World Series. Not long ago I would have said Upton would have definitely been the 2nd most valuable outfielder, but now he'll have to get in ine, which may work in our favor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I'm quietly on the Heyward and Cespedes bandwagon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 06:04 PM) How much / what will the difference in cost / years be between Gordon and Upton? Is Upton going to get more money and more years while Gordon provides actual better production (kind of like he has past few years)? I presume Royals are going to ensure they won't be beat. I wanna know what the difference in money is going to be between Upton and Heyward. If you're going to after Upton, might as well pay a little more Heyward with opt outs every year after year 4 or 5 of the deal. I've been pushing that on here for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 06:12 PM) I'm quietly on the Heyward and Cespedes bandwagon... Me too. Would rather have Cespedes than Upton, but Heyward over Cespedes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 04:13 PM) I wanna know what the difference in money is going to be between Upton and Heyward. If you're going to after Upton, might as well pay a little more Heyward with opt outs every year after year 4 or 5 of the deal. I've been pushing that on here for a while. I just keep assuming the difference between Heyward and Upton is going to be significant. I also figure Cespedes is going to get a contract based upon six months of production, which is tough to gel. Funny thing is, prior to going to the Mets, I thought he'd be a potential value "big contract" but then he blew up and I expect the opposite to happen. Nice thing about Jason and Justin is their relative ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Jason hasn't hit his prime yet. He would make a lot of sense especially with our defensive deficiencies. He makes a ton of sense....throw info out that were in on Upton and then silently swoop in and sign Heyward.....then I wake up ya ya I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 06:16 PM) I just keep assuming the difference between Heyward and Upton is going to be significant. I also figure Cespedes is going to get a contract based upon six months of production, which is tough to gel. Funny thing is, prior to going to the Mets, I thought he'd be a potential value "big contract" but then he blew up and I expect the opposite to happen. Nice thing about Jason and Justin is their relative ages. Annually, I don't think it would be too much more. But He wouldn't be a problem after he opted out around his age 30/31 age season to try and get another 6-7 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 06:19 PM) Jason hasn't hit his prime yet. He would make a lot of sense especially with our defensive deficiencies. He makes a ton of sense....throw info out that were in on Upton and then silently swoop in and sign Heyward.....then I wake up ya ya I know Upton is 2 years younger then Cespedes (and not Cuban) and 3 years younger than Gordon. Big reason I'd want Upton over th latter two. You're getting his prime years. That's obviously especially true for Heyward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 07:27 PM) Upton is 2 years younger then Cespedes (and not Cuban) and 3 years younger than Gordon. Big reason I'd want Upton over th latter two. You're getting his prime years. That's obviously especially true for Heyward. Agreed. I'm good with any of those. Just prefer Heyward due to his age and defense. We'll see how his bat is going into his prime years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I am honestly good with any one of the four OFs. I would prefer Heyward, Upton, Cespedes, Gordon. In that order probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 07:12 PM) I am honestly good with any one of the four OFs. I would prefer Heyward, Upton, Cespedes, Gordon. In that order probably Swap Upton and Cespedes and that is my list as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 04:58 PM) Sign OF Justin Upton 6 years/125 million Trade OF Trayce Thompson and SP Chris Beck for 3B Brett Lawrie Trade 1B Adam LaRoche, SP Frankie Montas, OF Avisail Garcia, and SP Tyler Danish for OF Carlos Gonzalez CF Adam Eaton (L) DH Melky Cabrera (S) 1B Jose Abreu LF Carlos Gonzalez (L) RF Justin Upton 3B Brett Lawrie C Alex Avila/Dioner Navarro 2B Carlos Sanchez (L) SS Tyler Saladino Thoughts? This would make me very happy. Very White Sox, but that's why I love em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) If the Sox spend the kind of money needed to acquire someone like Upton, Heyward or Gordon, that would preclude any other big signings. Therefore, unless they are willing to trade a starting pitcher, the guy whom they sign better be their much needed clean up hitter. Who would fill that role better, Upton or Heyward? Edited December 8, 2015 by Lillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 08:16 PM) If the Sox spend the kind of money needed to acquire someone like Upton, Hayward or Gordon, that would preclude any other big signings. Therefore, unless they are willing to trade a starting pitcher, the guy whom they sign better be their much needed clean up hitter. Who would fill that role better, Upton or Hayward? Upton, but that's a narrow way to analyze the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 You give me CarGo and Upton? Happy as a clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 08:28 PM) Upton, but that's a narrow way to analyze the situation. Perhaps, but I think that a cleanup hitter remains the biggest priority. Therefore, the guy they get better fill that hole. If you get a guy who is going to hit somewhere else in the lineup, who bats cleanup, behind Abreu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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