Whisox05 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Brewers were looking for 1st baseman. Orioles might need help if Davis leaves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) I wonder who the Sox were trying to get from the Pirates. I would assume they were looking for a prospect. Sounds like the Pirates wanted to keep the roster spot open. High A lifer with multiple arm surgeries was probably their target. Edited December 10, 2015 by Alexeihyeess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Yeesh. Nobody is going to give us salary relief on this guy so forget dumping him and hope for a hot spring training/start to the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Well this should be great for the bench flexibility. This is like the Konerko farewell tour, except we have LaRoche there ...... Add in if we were somehow able to switch Melky to DH and then acquire an OF and keep Garcia as our 4OF? That's one ugly bench. LaRoche, Avila, Garcia ........ none have flexibility, and all are pretty awful. Yay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 02:01 PM) Well this should be great for the bench flexibility. This is like the Konerko farewell tour, except we have LaRoche there ...... Add in if we were somehow able to switch Melky to DH and then acquire an OF and keep Garcia as our 4OF? That's one ugly bench. LaRoche, Avila, Garcia ........ none have flexibility, and all are pretty awful. Yay! Avi can be placed in the minors if need be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I guess you could play him once or twice a week in April and if he remains the awful hitter he was last year, just release him. Eat the 13 million. He's that bad that it might spark the team if you cut him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 09:38 PM) I guess you could play him once or twice a week in April and if he remains the awful hitter he was last year, just release him. Eat the 13 million. He's that bad that it might spark the team if you cut him. but he has a bad rep for being a really slow starter. since the sox can't trade him. he is a good defensive option at 1b. keep him and see what happens. remember he did put up 12 hrs. if by the asg, nothing happens and if the sox are out of it, release him. nothing more than a bench option with an occasional start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) Perhaps we aren't sufficiently addressing the real issue: Is it reasonable to expect LaRoche to have a bounce back season, or has his age already spelled the end of his effectiveness? I still don't know how much credibility to attach to the claims that he was injured last season. If that were the case, you could consider keeping him, as a DH, and just moving him further back, in the order. Providing that he could put up respectable offensive numbers, at least in a platoon role, that might be acceptable. Go get a potent middle of the order bat to play RF, in place of Avi, and go with a lineup like this: Eaton CF Melky LF Abreu 1B ????? RF (preferably a LH hitter, but any solid run producer) Lawrie 3B LaRoche DH vs. RHP Avila/Navarro C Saladino SS Sanchez 2B (I would love to see Carlos eventually emerge as an effective 2 hole hitter. That is where he has had his best Minor League success} Edited December 10, 2015 by Lillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 03:27 PM) Perhaps we aren't sufficiently addressing the real issue: Is it reasonable to expect LaRoche to have a bounce back season, or has his age already spelled the end of his effectiveness? I still don't know how much credibility to attach to the claims that he was injured last season. If that were the case, you could consider keeping him, as a DH, and just moving him further back, in the order. Providing that he could put up respectable offensive numbers, at least in a platoon role, that might be acceptable. Go get a potent middle of the order bat to play RF, in place of Avi, and go with a lineup like this: Eaton CF Melky LF Abreu 1B ????? RF (preferably a LH hitter, but any solid run producer) Lawrie 3B LaRoche DH vs. RHP Avila/Navarro C Saladino SS Sanchez 2B (I would love to see Carlos eventually emerge as an effective 2 hole hitter. That is where he has had his best Minor League success} I've put as much stock in the injury theory as anybody, but hearing that the Sox are so eager to get out from under LaRoche's deal has me reconsidering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 09:27 PM) Perhaps we aren't sufficiently addressing the real issue: Is it reasonable to expect LaRoche to have a bounce back season, or has his age already spelled the end of his effectiveness? You got it right. He's washed up cause of his age. He was bad from beginning to end of last season. He's just done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 09:41 PM) You got it right. He's washed up cause of his age. He was bad from beginning to end of last season. He's just done. if one can make a judgement based on someone last performance, then you are right. is there a chance it might not happen, maybe, but then the sox believe it to be so, but they made an announcement that is was avail and rpts of the club making an offer to pitt and with 8 mil as a sweetener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 The only way that I'd hold out any real hope of a bounce back from Adam, is if he was injured last season. If he was healthy last year, it seems unreasonable to expect him to do significantly better, at age 36. Then too, there is the pattern of guy coming off a solid career in the NL, specifically with Washington in his last several seasons, before coming to the Sox. Dunn was much younger, and he was even worse, in his first year with the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Perhaps we aren't sufficiently addressing the real issue: Is it reasonable to expect LaRoche to have a bounce back season, or has his age already spelled the end of his effectiveness? I still don't know how much credibility to attach to the claims that he was injured last season. If that were the case, you could consider keeping him, as a DH, and just moving him further back, in the order. Providing that he could put up respectable offensive numbers, at least in a platoon role, that might be acceptable. Go get a potent middle of the order bat to play RF, in place of Avi, and go with a lineup like this: Eaton CF Melky LF Abreu 1B ????? RF (preferably a LH hitter, but any solid run producer) Lawrie 3B LaRoche DH vs. RHP Avila/Navarro C Saladino SS Sanchez 2B (I would love to see Carlos eventually emerge as an effective 2 hole hitter. That is where he has had his best Minor League success} That's a 70 win lineup if I've ever seen one. Once a pitcher gers past ???? and Lawrie (not the toughest out in the world himself) it's cruise control for 2 innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 09:56 PM) The only way that I'd hold out any real hope of a bounce back from Adam, is if he was injured last season. If he was healthy last year, it seems unreasonable to expect him to do significantly better, at age 36. Then too, there is the pattern of guy coming off a solid career in the NL, specifically with Washington in his last several seasons, before coming to the Sox. Dunn was much younger, and he was even worse, in his first year with the Sox. ok i will play, then if he was injured then why did the sox announce he is avail??? why offer him and 8 mil to pitt ??? more importantly why not use the press group to do damage control??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Michael Cuddyer is retiring forfeiting all (he may get some of it) his salary for this year. Why can't we get that lucky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) just buy out laroche freaking contract. he is deadwood.... Edited December 13, 2015 by LDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/brew...st-basemen.html Hopefully Hahn is calling to see if brewers will take Laroche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Bold prediction: Adam La Roche will be on the White Sox next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 QUOTE (spiderman @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 09:48 PM) Bold prediction: Adam La Roche will be on the White Sox next season. Not very bold... unless you forgot the green text Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (spiderman @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 07:48 PM) Bold prediction: Adam La Roche will be on the White Sox next season. Bold prediction: I will take a poop before midnight. Edit: I have lacitives and I'm not afraid to use em! Edited December 13, 2015 by hi8is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 LaRoche + trade = ya, and monkeys might fly out of my butt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) If a team like the Brewers who could maybe use a stop gap, why not? They're not competing. Edited December 13, 2015 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 12:17 AM) If a team like the Brewers who could maybe use a stop gap, why not? They're not competing. From a Brewers standpoint and as pointed out in the article, there are quite a few options available and those options are more productive at a cheaper price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 12:30 AM) From a Brewers standpoint and as pointed out in the article, there are quite a few options available and those options are more productive at a cheaper price. How much would Alvarez or Carter command through arbitration? We could offer the same thing we offered the Pirates and they can pay him $5 mil. Although they'd likely prefer to sign Ike Davis, Alvarez, or Carter due to potential trade interest at the trade deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 09:06 AM) How much would Alvarez or Carter command through arbitration? We could offer the same thing we offered the Pirates and they can pay him $5 mil. Although they'd likely prefer to sign Ike Davis, Alvarez, or Carter due to potential trade interest at the trade deadline. Last I read Alvarez was projected 8.1M and Carter at 5.6M. There's really no reason for the Brewers to even be curious about LaRoche. Sox fans just need to accept he will be with the Sox next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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