BlackSox13 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 01:51 PM) Quiet you. Sorry. Sigh, I'll go get my dunce cap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 03:01 PM) Speaking of Andy Wilkins... MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors 1m1 minute ago Rangers Claim Andy Wilkins From Mariners http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/rang...s-mariners.html … He's in the running for the most claimed player ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 You all know how much I want a bonafide run producer at DH, to replace La Roche. However, if Abreu gets injured, who would play first base? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 03:12 PM) You all know how much I want a bonafide run producer at DH, to replace La Roche. However, if Abreu gets injured, who would play first base? LaRoche! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 03:11 PM) He's in the running for the most claimed player ever. Andy "the door knob" Wilkins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Andy Wilkins transactions in 2015 alone: March 29: Claimed by TOR off waivers from CHW May 3: Traded from TOR to LAD for cash Sept 6: Claimed by BAL off waivers from LAD Dec 2: Claimed by SEA off waivers from BAL Dec 9: Claimed by MIL off waivers from SEA Dec 12: Claimed by TEX off waivers from MIL On the one hand, lots of teams at least feel like he's a decent AAAA/emergency 1B guy. On the other hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glangon Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 09:12 PM) You all know how much I want a bonafide run producer at DH, to replace La Roche. However, if Abreu gets injured, who would play first base? Mike Olt played some 1st base last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 QUOTE (glangon @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 04:27 PM) Mike Olt played some 1st base last season And your point is...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 QUOTE (glangon @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 03:27 PM) Mike Olt played some 1st base last season I keep forgetting he's there. Probably by choice. I just don't think he's around come April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 John Jaso signs with Pirates....unless Baltimore/Milwaukee gets desperate, it looks like LaRoche is staying here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 "4:03pm: FOX’s Ken Rosenthal reports that Jaso will be guaranteed a total of $8MM over the life of the deal (Twitter link). Joel Sherman of the New York Post tweets that Jaso will earn $4MM in each season of the contract." Smart move by the Pirates. As for LaRoche. I think what happens is he spends ST fighting for the DH spot and if he loses he will be used in a bench role. It is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Although Hahn has shopped La Roche I still think he values the guy waaaaaay more than people on soxtalk values him. Maybe to a fault but I think Hahn probably thinks there is still some value in a left handed power hitting veteran either for this current team or with what the return he expects for sending LaRoche to another team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 04:18 PM) I keep forgetting he's there. Probably by choice. I just don't think he's around come April. If Olt is a member of the White Sox come April, something has gone drastically wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 04:36 PM) Although Hahn has shopped La Roche I still think he values the guy waaaaaay more than people on soxtalk values him. Maybe to a fault but I think Hahn probably thinks there is still some value in a left handed power hitting veteran either for this current team or with what the return he expects for sending LaRoche to another team. He was willing to give him away to the Pirates while paying more than 60% of his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 04:36 PM) Although Hahn has shopped La Roche I still think he values the guy waaaaaay more than people on soxtalk values him. Maybe to a fault but I think Hahn probably thinks there is still some value in a left handed power hitting veteran either for this current team or with what the return he expects for sending LaRoche to another team. Hahn can't just pull the cord on Laroche and completely admit that he has next to zero value, he is still trying to move him. The dichotomy of it all, trying to keep Laroche relevant and on other team's radar so you can somehow trade him, while not publically admitting that he doesn't have much value...that's the definition of a tough sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 04:43 PM) He was willing to give him away to the Pirates while paying more than 60% of his contract. We know this as fact? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 04:43 PM) He was willing to give him away to the Pirates while paying more than 60% of his contract. Hahn was basically trying to sell Laroche as a $5 million dollar player, it was a starting point. I still think the Sox might be better off eating up to 10 million of his salary just to open up a roster/lineup spot. If he doesn't bounce back, you've burned 13 million and wasted a roster spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 04:49 PM) Hahn was basically trying to sell Laroche as a $5 million dollar player, it was a starting point. I still think the Sox might be better off eating up to 10 million of his salary just to open up a roster/lineup spot. If he doesn't bounce back, you've burned 13 million and wasted a roster spot. He has a track record of being pretty good. There was an injury last year, and an adjustment to a new role. He was awful, but there is reason to believe he can be productive again.he does pretty well during even years. Edited December 23, 2015 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 04:36 PM) Although Hahn has shopped La Roche I still think he values the guy waaaaaay more than people on soxtalk values him. Maybe to a fault but I think Hahn probably thinks there is still some value in a left handed power hitting veteran either for this current team or with what the return he expects for sending LaRoche to another team. Hahn did offer 8M/LaRoche to the Pirates and they said no. I think Hahn realizes LaRoche has no value, its the media that took off with it because trading LaRoche is the most obvious move but the media failed to realize its also the most difficult if not impossible move. I mean seriously, look at LaRoche's numbers/salary and the " Hahn is shopping LaRoche" line the media ran with. Hahn isn't "shopping LaRoche", Hahn is looking for a dumpster team to drop Sox hot garbage on to. There never was a market for a 36 year old power hitter that's set to make 13M and only hit 12 HR last season. I would like to be wrong on this but it does not seem there are GM's dumb enough to trade for LaRoche. All we can do is hope he can somewhat bounce back a bit in whatever role the Sox put him in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 04:49 PM) We know this as fact? http://www.timesonline.com/sports/pirates/...aign=user-share Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 05:06 PM) http://www.timesonline.com/sports/pirates/...aign=user-share I am not going to sign up for that to read the article but I will take your word for it. I still don't think we really would know the details to proposed deals that fall through but whatever. If I was Hahn I would convince myself that he has value. LOL Makes it easier to keep a straight face while trying to do deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 10:59 PM) John Jaso signs with Pirates....unless Baltimore/Milwaukee gets desperate, it looks like LaRoche is staying here i have been wondering of Balt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 For what the White Sox would have to pay for someone to take LaRoche, it makes no sense to unload him. The savings would be minimal. If he shows he is still the same as last season in spring training or April or May, release him then. until that time, they might as well see where he is at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 12:46 AM) For what the White Sox would have to pay for someone to take LaRoche, it makes no sense to unload him. The savings would be minimal. If he shows he is still the same as last season in spring training or April or May, release him then. until that time, they might as well see where he is at. i don't know what is a savings would be with these org when they are talking about millions of dollars being saved. yeah, i was talking about laroche to the pirates along with 3-5 mil and a prospect pitcher to sweeten the pot. no matter what, laroche can play good defense at 1b and it will save the pirates from rushing their 1b prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 06:00 PM) i don't know what is a savings would be with these org when they are talking about millions of dollars being saved. yeah, i was talking about laroche to the pirates along with 3-5 mil and a prospect pitcher to sweeten the pot. no matter what, laroche can play good defense at 1b and it will save the pirates from rushing their 1b prospects. The Pirates signed John Jaso today which confirms their lack of interest in LaRoche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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