LDF Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 02:46 AM) Weird overpay from the team who traded Eaton and Skaggs for Mark Trumbo (a DH in the field and can't put up an OPS as high as Eaton). I'm somehow not surprised. but stewart and larussa are there now i would have thought they would have done better in trading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Vance Law @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 07:46 PM) Weird overpay from the team who traded Eaton and Skaggs for Mark Trumbo (a DH in the field and can't put up an OPS as high as Eaton). I'm somehow not surprised. Different GM They then made a nice trade to dump Trumbo. Arizona churns out a lot of talent from their minors (a lot more than the Sox) so they can overpay. But yea, this is the kind of trade the Sox should look toward (the Atlanta end), but they DON'T. It's a value trade; will help long term and may not the immediate position of need. All the Sox care about is getting a 3B and/or SS in here so they can howl at the moon until mid May. Edited December 9, 2015 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 07:46 PM) Weird overpay from the team who traded Eaton and Skaggs for Mark Trumbo (a DH in the field and can't put up an OPS as high as Eaton). I'm somehow not surprised. To be fair, they really had to trade one of Eaton or Pollock, and Eaton's value wasn't too high at the time due to injuries and a slight decline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 02:49 AM) To be fair, they really had to trade one of Eaton or Pollock, and Eaton's value wasn't too high at the time due to injuries and a slight decline. and unconfirmed rumor of him being too uppity in the clubhouse. (what ever that meant) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Let's hear some Sox news now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I'm just at a loss for words with this return. Shelby Miller is apparently worth the 2015 #1 overall draft pick, the #40 prospect in baseball, and a speedy, .300+ hitter who is elite defensively (3.3 fWAR/5.3 bWAR). Chris Sale must be worth Bryant, Schwarber, Russell, Baez, Soler, Alcantara, Vogelbach, Torres, and more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 08:35 PM) Swanson and Inciarte is an overpay for Miller IMO. Yeah...for as hard as I try to be a Dbag fan since I live out here...I just can't. Dumping Swanson really pisses me off....AND Inciarte?!?!?! Geezus. I can't even begin to fathom what Sale would bring for crap sakes. Yeah...I hope Q's name is dangling out there...good lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Is that haul confirmed? I don't believe it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (reiks12 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 08:01 PM) Is that haul confirmed? I don't believe it http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/diam...ler-braves.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 ATL got a great package for Miller, but the Sox are better off waiting until next offseason before consider moving Quintana or Sale IMO. The free agent market is significantly worse next year and these guys will still have three & four years of control respectively. Plus we'll have a much better idea where we stand in a year (does Rodon take that next step, are guys like Anderson/Fulmer legit pieces) and dead weight off our roster (LaRoche/Danks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 05:49 PM) Different GM That's true. Stewart has not impressed me either. And now this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Haha what the hell, Miller isn't even that good either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 08:03 PM) ATL got a great package for Miller, but the Sox are better off waiting until next offseason before consider moving Quintana or Sale IMO. The free agent market is significantly worse next year and these guys will still have three & four years of control respectively. Plus we'll have a much better idea where we stand in a year (does Rodon take that next step, are guys like Anderson/Fulmer legit pieces) and dead weight off our roster (LaRoche/Danks). I don't disagree with you, but in the case of Quintana, I would hope they are at least listening. Sale, I get it. Too hard to trade. If Quintana could get back a couple all-star upside bats now, you do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Wow, I think Shelby Miller is underrated here, but 2 top 50 prospects and a 25 year old outfielder who just put up a 3.3 WAR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 08:03 PM) ATL got a great package for Miller, but the Sox are better off waiting until next offseason before consider moving Quintana or Sale IMO. The free agent market is significantly worse next year and these guys will still have three & four years of control respectively. Plus we'll have a much better idea where we stand in a year (does Rodon take that next step, are guys like Anderson/Fulmer legit pieces) and dead weight off our roster (LaRoche/Danks). Good points; it's also the argument for saving our prospects. there are also aren't many orgs like Arizona willing to trade prospects like that. Boston is one. But they made their moves. Edited December 9, 2015 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Holy s*** AZ gave up some serious talent! I did not think Miller could bring that type of a haul. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 When I said good for the Diamondbacks...that was way premature. That's a ton for Miller. That should have been used for Jose Fernandez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 08:35 PM) Holy s*** AZ gave up some serious talent! I did not think Miller could bring that type of a haul. Wow. This is exactly why Q should be placed on the block. The return for him could change the direction of the franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 08:40 PM) This is exactly why Q should be placed on the block. The return for him could change the direction of the franchise. That would be taking 2 steps back to take 5 steps forward. The Sox prefer to take 1 step forward and then 3 steps back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 It makes you wonder what kind of offers Hahn has gotten for Q and Sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Seriously...wtf is Hahn doing? Obviously with this trade Q isn't even on the market. Not sure what Plan A B or C is...I honestly doubt they have one. I could see this trade for Q...but Shelby Miller!?!? I'm seriously pissed about this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 08:40 PM) This is exactly why Q should be placed on the block. The return for him could change the direction of the franchise. It frustrates me reading of another team selling high on a player and taking advantage of another team's willingness to overpay to compete. White Sox NEVER make these deals and they desparately need to. And I don't want to hear, "these trades are rare," because it happens every damn offseason and at the trade deadline. We've seen from Kimbrell and now Miller what the return can be for good pitching. Take advantage of it, Hahn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 08:40 PM) This is exactly why Q should be placed on the block. The return for him could change the direction of the franchise. I see where you're coming from and believe me, my mind has been running like crazy since I read what Atlanta got in return. I'll leave it at that since this isn't a Sox thread and I do not want to derail it but, DAMN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 08:44 PM) That would be taking 2 steps back to take 5 steps forward. The Sox prefer to take 1 step forward and then 3 steps back. Exactly, and our weak minded management could never accept such a move. Always going for it are the White Sox! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpd9189 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Sox management before Miller trade: "We're looking to add some pieces to contend next year." Sox management after seeing what ATL got for Miller: "Everyone back in the suite now, new plan time." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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