2nd_city_saint787 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Isn't Zobrist really the first quality bat to be signed? How many quality major league bats have been traded? Inciarte? Castro? Neither are guys who really fix the offense. The hitting market, which is the market the Sox should be in hasn't even really heated up. Relax people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (scs787 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 10:54 PM) Isn't Zobrist really the first quality bat to be signed? How many quality major league bats have been traded? Inciarte? Castro? Neither are guys who really fix the offense. The hitting market, which is the market the Sox should be in hasn't even really heated up. Relax people. Well Inciarte last year was a 5.3 war player making 500K....He may not "fix" an offense by himself. But 2.0 offensive WAR and 2.6 defensive war certainly helps any team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 12:59 AM) Well Inciarte last year was a 5.3 war player making 500K....He may not "fix" an offense by himself. But 2.0 offensive WAR and 2.6 defensive war certainly helps any team. He'd help, but he's not the impact guy I would be trading Q for. I don't care much for projections, but he's projected at 1.6 WAR next year. Blair and Swanson made that AZ/ATL trade to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I'm preparing for a very exciting rule 5 myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 11:36 PM) Ha and you said I was on crack for my sale proposal...JFC lose two SPs and gain 3 OFs. What we do then to fill out the staff? What we do with Eaton Avi and Trayce? You don't lose Q, Fullmer or Sale. You still have your draft picks to draft more pitchers - the one thing you're good at as an organization. Flip any combo of Eaton, Avi, Trayce, or any of the new OFs to fill out your infield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 boring two days for White Sox fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 11:33 PM) boring two days for White Sox fans Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Well last year's excitement translated to..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (scs787 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 11:06 PM) He'd help, but he's not the impact guy I would be trading Q for. I don't care much for projections, but he's projected at 1.6 WAR next year. Blair and Swanson made that AZ/ATL trade to me. That's because Fangraphs slashed his offensive projections down to basically nothing. All of those guys made the trade. His value to the team last year was definition of "impact". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 11:37 PM) Well last year's excitement translated to..... 3 more wins. But having basically the same team isn't going to do anything either. I know not everything needs to happen at the Winter Meetings so in reality it isn't a big deal if we don't make a move in the next day or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (spiderman @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 08:40 PM) I'm probably one of the few, but I'm not opposed to the White Sox staying quiet(er) in free agency. My #1 focus continues to be rebuilding the minor league system and rebuilding it back. Having 3 draft picks in the first 50 or so picks is a good start, but they need to keep these picks and not be tempted on a free agent. Completely agree, they need to make that their top priority. This draft could be huge for the system and along with J2 and the trade deadline, the system could be infused with some major talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 Have been told White Sox checked in on numerous impact third base and outfield trade options. Return starts with Anderson and even Quintana https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/674626089172508672 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:31 AM) Have been told White Sox checked in on numerous impact third base and outfield trade options. Return starts with Anderson and even Quintana https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/674626089172508672 Not surprised. I would imagine those names are Carlos Gonzalez and Todd Frazier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:32 AM) Not surprised. I would imagine those names are Carlos Gonzalez and Todd Frazier Probably, but if the Reds and Rockies are expecting to get a Quintana type return for Cargo or Frazier then Cargo and Frazier are staying with their respective teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 05:32 PM) Not surprised. I would imagine those names are Carlos Gonzalez and Todd Frazier Arenado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:32 AM) Not surprised. I would imagine those names are Carlos Gonzalez and Todd Frazier I was kinda thinking Q for Carlos Gonzalez, Ryan McMahon + and cash. Would give the Sox a slugger now and future 3rd baseman with star potential. I would still think more should come back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:40 AM) I was kinda thinking Q for Carlos Gonzalez, Ryan McMahon + and cash. Would give the Sox a slugger now and future 3rd baseman with star potential. I would still think more should come back That would be bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Scott Merkin @scottmerkin 29s30 seconds ago Virginia, USA Let me clarify from before: White Sox aren't trading Anderson or Quintana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:45 AM) That would be bad. Q sitting on a team that can't score runs and win is bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:46 AM) Scott Merkin @scottmerkin 29s30 seconds ago Virginia, USA Let me clarify from before: White Sox aren't trading Anderson or Quintana I know majority doesn't want to trade Q but we really have to trade from our depth in order to improve our position players. We just saw ATL fleece a desperate team, I hope we are atleast calling and listening to what teams would give for Q. I still don't know if this team completely knows or agrees with each other internally about what direction this teaM should be going in next year and the next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:53 AM) I know majority doesn't want to trade Q but we really have to trade from our depth in order to improve our position players. We just saw ATL fleece a desperate team, I hope we are atleast calling and listening to what teams would give for Q. I still don't know if this team completely knows or agrees with each other internally about what direction this teaM should be going in next year and the next. Seriously the only other option is to gut the minor league system again to get better. The worst possible thing they could do here is stand pat or marginally upgrade 3B or another position. That doesn't put you in a better situation to win much more than last year. After seeing what Atlanta got for Miller who's performance is comparable to Quintana I would hope they're getting feelers on him. It is nearly impossible to improve on last year's team without gutting the minors or trading a starter. Edited December 9, 2015 by Sockin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (Sockin @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 11:00 AM) Seriously the only other option is to gut the minor league system again to get better. The worst possible thing they could do here is stand pat or marginally upgrade 3B or another position. That doesn't put you in a better situation to win much more than last year. After seeing what Atlanta got for Miller who's performance is comparable to Quintana I would hope they're getting feelers on him. It is nearly impossible to improve on last year's team without gutting the minors or trading a starter. I hear ya and agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (Sockin @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 11:00 AM) Seriously the only other option is to gut the minor league system again to get better. The worst possible thing they could do here is stand pat or marginally upgrade 3B or another position. That doesn't put you in a better situation to win much more than last year. After seeing what Atlanta got for Miller who's performance is comparable to Quintana I would hope they're getting feelers on him. It is nearly impossible to improve on last year's team without gutting the minors or trading a starter. Quintana >>> Miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 04:46 PM) Scott Merkin @scottmerkin 29s30 seconds ago Virginia, USA Let me clarify from before: White Sox aren't trading Anderson or Quintana This is good news. I see an Adam Laroche as trade bait to a NL team and there might be interest, but the potential for a rebound in 2016 is there for sure. I think we can agree that the transition to DH by a NL slugger is not an easy one. I would have liked to have seen more Laroche at 1B and Abreu at DH. Laroche is a gold glove IBman, but I do think Abreu is less of a liability now. I can see Garcia and Melky Cabrera as trade possibilities as well as some relief pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Things aren't heating up anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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