Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 01:48 AM) Cespedes doesn't cost a pick. I know that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 10:41 PM) If we trade a rotation starter, I do want to see us sign someone like Johan as the 5th starter. I think he can comeback like Kazmir did. He is minor league deal territory, and he would have guys like Beck, Turner, Johnson, and Aumont to contend with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Sox trade Q + Garcia + LaRoche to Red Sox for Deven Marrero, Brock Holt, JBJ and Henry Owens Sox trade Tim Anderson, Micah Johnson and Erik Johnson to Mets for SP Zach Wheeler Sign Cespedes LF Eaton DH Cabrera 1B Abreu RF Cespedes 3B Holt 2B Lawrie C Navarro/Avila CF JBJ/Thompson SS Saladino/Sanchez/Marrero SP Sale SP Rodon SP Wheeler SP Owens SP Danks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 09:28 PM) You can go ahead and double that price for Cespedes, and add a few years. I am not sure about that, there have been reports that his market hasn't developed as expected. There are a lot of teams that have come out and said they are not looking at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 11:20 AM) Sox trade Q + Garcia + LaRoche to Red Sox for Deven Marrero, Brock Holt, JBJ and Henry Owens Sox trade Tim Anderson, Micah Johnson and Erik Johnson to Mets for SP Zach Wheeler Sign Cespedes LF Eaton DH Cabrera 1B Abreu RF Cespedes 3B Holt 2B Lawrie C Navarro/Avila CF JBJ/Thompson SS Saladino/Sanchez/Marrero SP Sale SP Rodon SP Wheeler SP Owens SP Danks That Q deal makes no sense IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I'd like to unload Avi and LaRoche too but it really makes no sense to diminish Q's value by throwing them in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 11:36 AM) I'd like to unload Avi and LaRoche too but it really makes no sense to diminish Q's value by throwing them in. Yeah especially when one only has one year left and the other can go to the minors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 i wonder if the sox have anything the cards want.... meaning Q and what would they be willing to give up. i know they can go and get cueto but i would also double up on another ace sp, if i was the cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 11:36 AM) I'd like to unload Avi and LaRoche too but it really makes no sense to diminish Q's value by throwing them in. 3 controllable MLB starters and a AAA prospect that has is considered elite defensively is a pretty good return. Owens still has a chance to become a at least a 2 or 3 and possibly even a TOR guy if he gets it put together. I think we could probably get more from them, but it would be lower level guys like Montas was when we got him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I'd like to see if the Sox can do anything more to upgrade a number of starting positional players who were ranked among the worst in MLB from either an offensive or defensive stand point according to a new of places. But more than that I'd like to see them fire the manager who has not gotten any better over four seasons, still makes fundamental mistakes and lacks any passion. That in itself may help the current players perform better. But I don't expect that to happen at least until May if then. More than liekly Ventura will finish out his contract and ride off with some dignity. What the Sox do then is absolutely anybody's guess. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) Trade Q, Laroche, and Avi to Houston for George Springer, Colin McHugh, and Colin Moran- my thinking is that Houston would rather get their pitcher they need without spending $100+M so the 1 year of Laroche is pretty manageable. Plus it looks like LaRoche could actually get some AB's with their 1B situation. Sign Gerrado Parra 2/16 M Eaton CF Melky DH Abreu 1B Springer RF Parra/Thompson (Trayce vs LH) LF Lawrie 3B Avila/Navarro C Micah/Sanchez 2B Saladino SS Sale Rodon McHugh Johnson Danks Turner Kahnle Jennings Petricka Duke Jones Robertson I'd love to put any one of the big free agent OF's instead of Parra and go for it all. Just tried to keep it realistic. Edited December 12, 2015 by TheFutureIsNear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 From ESPN: The Chicago White Sox appear set in the outfield with Melky Cabrera in left field, Adam Eaton in center and Avisail Garcia in right. That said, the Sox ranked last in the American League with 622 runs and a .686 team OPS in 2015. Can they stand idly by and let Upton or Cespedes sign elsewhere with an offense that sad? They sure as hell better not be done with that outfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 07:04 PM) From ESPN: They sure as hell better not be done with that outfield. I'm confident they're not done (not willing to bet on it though). If the team looks like this 2 months from now around the time Spring Training starts, I'm predicting a 5th place finish (4th at best). Edited December 12, 2015 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Ya, its a bit early in the off season to say the outfield is set. That's just a bit pre-mature by ESPN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 "The Kenny Williams/MLB The Show/Baller Edition" • Sign Yoenis Cespedes for 6 years/$135 million • Trade Spencer Adams, Tyler Danish, Courtney Hawkins, Micah Johnson, Jordan Guerrero, and Adam Engel for Todd Frazier • Trade Frankie Montas, Avisail Garcia, Adam LaRoche, and Daniel Webb for Carlos Gonzalez Lineup - (CF) Adam Eaton (L) (DH) Melky Cabrera (S) (1B) Jose Abreu ® (RF) Carlos Gonzalez (L) (LF) Yoenis Cespedes ® (3B) Todd Frazier ® (2B) Brett Lawrie ® © Dioner Navarro (S) (SS) Carlos Sanchez (S) Bench - (2B, SS, 3B) Tyler Saladino ® © Alex Avila (L) (OF) JB Shuck (L) (OF) Trayce Thompson ® Starting Rotation - 1. Chris Sale (L) 2. Jose Quintana (L) 3. Carlos Rodon (L) 4. Erik Johnson ® 5. John Danks (L) Bullpen - 1. Tommy Kahnle ® 2. Jake Petricka ® 3. Zach Putnam ® 4. Dan Jennings (L) LHSU - Zach Duke (L) RHSU - Nate Jones ® CL - David Robertson ® Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 02:32 AM) "The Kenny Williams/MLB The Show/Baller Edition" • Sign Yoenis Cespedes for 6 years/$135 million • Trade Spencer Adams, Tyler Danish, Courtney Hawkins, Micah Johnson, Jordan Guerrero, and Adam Engel for Todd Frazier • Trade Frankie Montas, Avisail Garcia, Adam LaRoche, and Daniel Webb for Carlos Gonzalez Lineup - (CF) Adam Eaton (L) (DH) Melky Cabrera (S) (1B) Jose Abreu ® (RF) Carlos Gonzalez (L) (LF) Yoenis Cespedes ® (3B) Todd Frazier ® (2B) Brett Lawrie ® © Dioner Navarro (S) (SS) Carlos Sanchez (S) Bench - (2B, SS, 3B) Tyler Saladino ® © Alex Avila (L) (OF) JB Shuck (L) (OF) Trayce Thompson ® Starting Rotation - 1. Chris Sale (L) 2. Jose Quintana (L) 3. Carlos Rodon (L) 4. Erik Johnson ® 5. John Danks (L) Bullpen - 1. Tommy Kahnle ® 2. Jake Petricka ® 3. Zach Putnam ® 4. Dan Jennings (L) LHSU - Zach Duke (L) RHSU - Nate Jones ® CL - David Robertson ® i really don't like it, too much for frazier and you really need a additional sp. just my thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 07:39 PM) i really don't like it, too much for frazier and you really need a additional sp. just my thoughts. We're going to have to deal two of Anderson/Fulmer/Montas as a start for either Frazier or Gonzalez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Six months ago Cargo wasn't even worth a Top 5 prospect...it was more of a salary dump like a Rios situation. The Rockies and Reds aren't going anywhere with either of those two, and Cargo is risky in terms of salary, injury history and uncertainty of performance outside of Coors/in the AL. No way I'm giving up Anderson or Fulmer unless they're eating salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 So Cuddyer retires after being in a similar situation as LaRoche. Just our luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 02:32 AM) "The Kenny Williams/MLB The Show/Baller Edition" • Sign Yoenis Cespedes for 6 years/$135 million • Trade Spencer Adams, Tyler Danish, Courtney Hawkins, Micah Johnson, Jordan Guerrero, and Adam Engel for Todd Frazier • Trade Frankie Montas, Avisail Garcia, Adam LaRoche, and Daniel Webb for Carlos Gonzalez trade... i am thinking on the fallout of the heyward signing and what it means for other teams. to la , it all depends on cueto interest from the dodgers. robertson - cl, Rodon - sp, to the sox Enrique Hernández - 2b/ss/of, J.P. Howell - rp, Yimi García - rp, Julio Urias - sp, Jose De Leon - sp, Alex Verdugo - of, Jose Peraza - 2b/ss to hou Q - sp, to chi George Springer - of, Marwin González - ss/3b/1b. Mark Appel - sp, J.D. Davis - 3b, to chi and salary dump for kemp and will move to the dh role. Hunter Renfroe - of, Matt Kemp - of, Austin Allen - cat, Javier Guerra - ss/3b. to San TT - of, Lowry - sp, Danish - sp, montas - rp Edited December 12, 2015 by LDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 The only trade I would be comfortable making out of the 3 you listed is the one involving the Padres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 04:46 AM) The only trade I would be comfortable making out of the 3 you listed is the one involving the Padres. you know, i really had to look at this in your way and i agree. that 3rd one can really stand on its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFinn Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Transactions: Sign Johnny Cueto: 7 years/$133 million with an opt out clause after 3 years (no qualifying offer attached) Sign Yoenis Cespedes: 7 years/$161 million with an opt out clause after 3 years (no qualifying offer attached) Trade Adam LaRoche and Avisail Garcia to the Yokohama Carp for some sushi to be eaten later Lineup: 9 2B/LH Micah Johnson CF/LH Adam Eaton 1B/RH Jose Abreu LF/RH Yoenis Cespedes DH/SH Melky Cabrera 3B/RH Brett Lawrie C/LH Alex Avila RF/RH Trayce Thompson SS/RH Tyler Saladino Bench: 3 C/SH Dioner Navarro IF/SH Carlos Sanchez OF/LH J.B. Shuck Starters: 5 LHP Chris Sale LHP Jose Quintana LHP Carlos Rodon RHP Johnny Cueto RHP Erik Johnson Bullpen: 8 RHP D. Robertson (Closer) RHP Nate Jones (RH Setup) LHP Zach Duke (LH Setup) RHP Zach Putnam (Middle Relief) RHP Jake Petricka (Middle Relief) LHP Will Lamb (Middle Relief) LHP John Danks (Spot Starter/Long Relief) RHP Jacob Turner (Spot Starter/Long Relief) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Johnny Cueto in the AL for 3-7 years while he's on the decline? No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) Sox trade - D-Rob + LaRoche + Chris Beck SP to Dodgers Sox acquire - Ethier OF + Austin Barnes C + Chris Anderson RHP Sox trade - Chris Anderson SP - Avi Garcia OF - Adam Engel OF - Micah Johnson IF - Tyler Danish SP Sox Acquire - Todd Frazier Sox Sign OF Justin Upton - 6yr 135M w/ opt out after 3 years Pitching - Sale Q Rodon Johnson Danks Lineup - CF - Eaton (L) DH - Melky (S) 1B - Abreu ® RF - Upton ® 3B - Frazier ® LF - Ethier (L) 2B - Lawrie ® C - Navarro (S) SS - Saladino ® Sox try Nate Jones as closer and if he fails Carson Fulmer/Frankie Montas takes the Chris Sale route to the majors and breaks in mid 2016 as closer. Thompson spells Eaton/Ethier against lefties and provides Melky/Ethier days off to keep them fresh. Sanches becomes infield sub for SS/2B and Lawrie shifts to 3rd on Frazier's days off Edited December 12, 2015 by Knackattack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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