Real Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 look at those graphs, Upton is the clear choice if you ask me the strikeouts don't mean much to me as he still has the highest OBP of the group and 2nd highest number of homeruns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (Real @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 03:32 AM) look at those graphs, Upton is the clear choice if you ask me the strikeouts don't mean much to me as he still has the highest OBP of the group and 2nd highest number of homeruns I agree. It's amazing his OBP is the highest even though he had more strike outs than hits. I would be estatic with either Upton or Cespedes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Might be dumb, but it's something to think about nonetheless: Sox are always slow out of the gate and Justin Upton seems to always put up solid numbers in April and May: April .277/.357/.529 May .279/.366/.490 June .269/.366/.409 July .273/.340/.479 August .280/.356/.500 Sept/Oct .250/.322/.434 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 07:30 AM) Might be dumb, but it's something to think about nonetheless: Sox are always slow out of the gate and Justin Upton seems to always put up solid numbers in April and May: April .277/.357/.529 May .279/.366/.490 June .269/.366/.409 July .273/.340/.479 August .280/.356/.500 Sept/Oct .250/.322/.434 Hasn't he always played the majority of his games in warm weather cities at that time? A big departure from Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit and Minny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 09:11 AM) Surfing other fan forums and found this comparing the free agent OFs.... Pretty nice visual tool to compare these guys offensively. HT Angles Win fan forum http://i.imgur.com/PNm8mjt.png http://i.imgur.com/HJcXhkw.png http://i.imgur.com/DSxb0OE.png http://i.imgur.com/0iT6r7G.png http://i.imgur.com/qWpIdsZ.png EXCELLENT find and sharing this. based on this, i like Yoenis Cespedes as the best investment, based on the above graph, and based on Baseball Reference for the past yrs, it is pretty close to what i may considered as his standard. anyway, isn't comiskey would be a somewhat a hitters park?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 This may work out well. Big spenders don't seem to be involved. Upton is a solid player. I wouldn't sign him but he's my first choice if we must acquire a proven veteran. And given that the Sox seem like they want to convince themselves that they can cimpete in 2016, he's the choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 02:36 PM) This may work out well. Big spenders don't seem to be involved. Upton is a solid player. I wouldn't sign him but he's my first choice if we must acquire a proven veteran. And given that the Sox seem like they want to convince themselves that they can cimpete in 2016, he's the choice. in some respect, i am glad the sox are not running out there and signing all the top fa's. i will preach this, i trust hahn in doing this the right way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 08:43 AM) in some respect, i am glad the sox are not running out there and signing all the top fa's. i will preach this, i trust hahn in doing this the right way. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 03:59 PM) Why? i don't know, i keep seeing team of the past who invest in heavily in top fa's only not to have success in the playoff. the main advantage of getting the missing pieces, the sox can have control of how to address the holes by deciding which will be the best course of action. lastly, i just hate to break the bank on 1 fa and having to find ways to fix the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 08:59 AM) Why? I would be all for it if I knew that we were raising our overall budget. But if we may need a starter next year and need budget flexibility to fill needs. And it's certainly better than trading young players for the likes of Frazier. Edited December 15, 2015 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 07:30 AM) Might be dumb, but it's something to think about nonetheless: Sox are always slow out of the gate and Justin Upton seems to always put up solid numbers in April and May: April .277/.357/.529 May .279/.366/.490 June .269/.366/.409 July .273/.340/.479 August .280/.356/.500 Sept/Oct .250/.322/.434 Scrubs unveil Heyward. Good day to sign Upton!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Since yesterday my hopes of landing one have grown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (Saufley @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 03:35 PM) Scrubs unveil Heyward. Good day to sign Upton!! dang, i really tried to ignore this post, but i will answer... i am soo weak willed. i would not like the signing of upton at this time or ever. now to give some reasonable reason, i can\t. i just do not like him as a player and i think he comes with baggage. again this is my opinion. but i will give a month of not posting if they, the sox makes some great trade and fa signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 What's with all of this not posting stuff. Everyone has an opinion which makes the board interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 04:19 PM) What's with all of this not posting stuff. Everyone has an opinion which makes the board interesting. exactly .... and as i used to say on wsi and then later on this board a long time ago. with everyone having an opinion, based on that, everyone is right and everyone is wrong, as long posters don't take it personal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I would offer justin upton 4 years 80 million opt out after 2017 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (peavy44 @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 01:07 PM) I would offer justin upton 4 years 80 million opt out after 2017 season. Upton doesn't do that because that 18 class is stacked and he will be an outlier in that class rather than a headliner. He will sign a 5-7 year deal with an opt out after 3 or 4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 01:15 PM) Upton doesn't do that because that 18 class is stacked and he will be an outlier in that class rather than a headliner. He will sign a 5-7 year deal with an opt out after 3 or 4 years. he opts out after 2017 season not 2018 season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (peavy44 @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 01:23 PM) he opts out after 2017 season not 2018 season Why would the Sox forfeit a top 30 draft pick to sign Upton for what is essentially a 2 year deal? Doesn't make sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (peavy44 @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 01:07 PM) I would offer justin upton 4 years 80 million opt out after 2017 season. He'll get more years and money than that. I guarantee it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 02:04 PM) He'll get more years and money than that. I guarantee it. Upton, Frazier or both? Coming down from the high of yesterday and feeling bummed today. Wish the Sox would make a move! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 03:04 PM) Why would the Sox forfeit a top 30 draft pick to sign Upton for what is essentially a 2 year deal? Doesn't make sense They get a pick when they lose him in 2 years, assuming the CBA does not change much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 QUOTE (oldsox @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 07:22 PM) They get a pick when they lose him in 2 years, assuming the CBA does not change much. I think he knows that. I think he's saying it makes no sense to lose a draft pick for a guy here for two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 So much for market picking up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 08:14 PM) So much for market picking up That doesnt mean he was going to sign anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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