Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 04:25 PM) No because he has no value. Keep him one more year. And do what with him? Play him at Charlotte? He has no place on the major league team if they plan on winning something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) If they sign Upton or Cespedes, there is zero chance they sign Austin Jackson. Austin Jackson makes some sense if they go cheaper. He probably is a lot like Trayce Thompson defensively. His hitting is a question but he has had some good seasons. He hit well at USCF last year with the Mariners, and then was soon traded. Edited December 19, 2015 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 04:28 PM) If they sign Upton or Cespedes, there is zero chance they sign Austin Jackson. And that's fine. That's what I'd do though. They still need a player that keeps LaRoche on the bench vs LHP and it may as well be an OF so that Melky can DH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 04:30 PM) And that's fine. That's what I'd do though. They still need a player that keeps LaRoche on the bench vs LHP and it may as well be an OF so that Melky can DH Melky struggled vs. lefties last year as well. Not like LaRoche, but not very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 04:33 PM) Melky struggled vs. lefties last year as well. Not like LaRoche, but not very good. I know. Which is why getting 2 RHH OF's makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 05:28 PM) If they sign Upton or Cespedes, there is zero chance they sign Austin Jackson. Austin Jackson makes some sense if they go cheaper. He probably is a lot like Trayce Thompson defensively. His hitting is a question but he has had some good seasons. He hit well at USCF last year with the Mariners, and then was soon traded. If we moved LaRoche I wouldn't mind signing Cespedes and Jackson. Improve the defense in the outfield: Eaton Jackson Cespedes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Jackson's OBP has really declined, the last two years; .311 and .308. I'd rather just play Shuck Eaton and Upton, if Melky is moved to DH. I read that it will take at least $15-18 million for a couple of seasons to lock him up. Remember, he is a Boras client. I didn't check to see if he received a Q. O., which is another consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 04:53 PM) If we moved LaRoche I wouldn't mind signing Cespedes and Jackson. Improve the defense in the outfield: Eaton Jackson Cespedes Even if they don't move LaRoche. Jackson or someone like him could be the 4th OF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 05:06 PM) Jackson's OBP has really declined, the last two years; .311 and .308. I'd rather just play Shuck Eaton and Upton, if Melky is moved to DH. I read that it will take at least $15-18 million for a couple of seasons to lock him up. Remember, he is a Boras client. I didn't check to see if he received a Q. O., which is another consideration. Jackson didn't receive a QO and wasn't eligible for one. Shuck is also LH though which doesn't really solve anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Someone on one of the CSN shows was talking about how Cespedes absolutely strikes fear into the pitchers when he's at the dish. I didn't know that but I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I never want to see abreu bat second again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 05:19 PM) Someone on one of the CSN shows was talking about how Cespedes absolutely strikes fear into the pitchers when he's at the dish. I didn't know that but I like it. It was SportsTalk Live, and it was the guy that also predicted the Bears are going to release Cutler next season and Sign Peyton Manning to a 1 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 This market is starting to look like the market when the Sox were able to get Abreu. Boston, the Yankees, Dodgers all not really looking for OF. You have to figure the Cardinals will sign one of them. Washington needs a CF. If the Tigers and Angels are truly out, the earlier estimates of the contracts these OFs receive are going to look inflated.Very inflated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 05:26 PM) It was SportsTalk Live, and it was the guy that also predicted the Bears are going to release Cutler next season and Sign Peyton Manning to a 1 year deal. Haha oh my lord. Who is that? Jason Goch? That guy says dumb s***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 05:29 PM) Haha oh my lord. Who is that? Jason Goch? That guy says dumb s***. http://www.csnchicago.com/show/sportstalk-live It's the first guy seen after Garfein in this clip. I don't think they talk about Cutler in this clip, but I hate this guy and everything he says is just completely dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 05:31 PM) http://www.csnchicago.com/show/sportstalk-live It's the first guy seen after Garfein in this clip. I don't think they talk about Cutler in this clip, but I hate this guy and everything he says is just completely dumb. That is Peter Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 06:50 PM) Never even heard of him. Who is he employed by? Yahoo radio or something like that. He was in Milwaukee for years, I think Cleveland as well. Your typical windbag. Every team sucks, he knows the easy fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 05:19 PM) Someone on one of the CSN shows was talking about how Cespedes absolutely strikes fear into the pitchers when he's at the dish. I didn't know that but I like it. Well duh... so does every good/powerful hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 08:32 PM) Well duh... so does every good/powerful hitter. Ahh thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 ESPN's Buster Olney reported the Baltimore Orioles have added Cespedes to their list of outfield targets. Don't know if that's leverage with the Davis talks but we know Balt has the money. The Orioles are definitely a team to watch while we hope for one of the big three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I do not doubt Baltimore's interest in Cespedes. They seem pretty frustrated with Boras and Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 The problem with these guys is none give the indication that they will be consistent for the duration or most of the duration of the contract. Gordon seems like he would be the best, but he's not the "slugger" for which Kenny Williams is on his eternal sojourn. (don't remind Kenny that to win the WS he dumped a slugger and shored-up OF defense). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 20, 2015 -> 08:46 AM) The problem with these guys is none give the indication that they will be consistent for the duration or most of the duration of the contract. Gordon seems like he would be the best, but he's not the "slugger" for which Kenny Williams is on his eternal sojourn. (don't remind Kenny that to win the WS he dumped a slugger and shored-up OF defense). Dude, you are beyond delusional. The 2005 White Sox had solid power or better at almost all positions and hit 200 HRs. I'm not sure how comparing those teams or players are relevant at all. Edited December 20, 2015 by Chicago White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 20, 2015 -> 09:29 AM) Dude, you are beyond delusional. The 2005 White Sox had solid power or better at almost all positions and hit 200 HRs. I'm not sure how comparing those teams or players are relevant at all. I also don't get how Justin Upton can't be considered pretty consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 20, 2015 -> 09:29 AM) Dude, you are beyond delusional. The 2005 White Sox had solid power or better at almost all positions and hit 200 HRs. I'm not sure how comparing those teams or players are relevant at all. Sure they hit homers...but not with swing and miss low obp sluggers, fawned over hereon. Sox had players across the board who who could hit. They also played impeccable defense and dumped a slugger at a steep discount to shore up his and other positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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