Dick Allen Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 10:16 AM) Agree. As long as they still upgrade the team from now until Spring Training. Yes, just not the "we'll see where we are at and adjust near the deadline". Get as good as you can get right now, and adjust at the deadline if needed. The other way hasn't worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:56 AM) I keep going back to raBBit's post saying that the talks have been creative and options are the sticking point. Leads me to believe that the Sox are sticking to fewer years (I might believe they'll offer four years), and they are haggling over options for an additional year or two. If the tweet saying the Nationals offer is not good is true, then maybe the Sox truly are the only serious bidders. I just hope this nonsense ends soon...like today. If the only teams remaining in these discussions are only with the White Sox and Mets, and the Mets are not going beyond 1 year, why would the White Sox need to go from 3 to 4 years. The only reason I can think is if they believe Cespedes will take the Mets offer over the White Sox. Have any other teams been linked to Cespedes? Is Washington a serious player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 04:18 PM) Yes, just not the "we'll see where we are at and adjust near the deadline". Get as good as you can get right now, and adjust at the deadline if needed. The other way hasn't worked. Couldn't agree more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (spiderman @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 10:18 AM) If the only teams remaining in these discussions are only with the White Sox and Mets, and the Mets are not going beyond 1 year, why would the White Sox need to go from 3 to 4 years. The only reason I can think is if they believe Cespedes will take the Mets offer over the White Sox. Have any other teams been linked to Cespedes? Is Washington a serious player? The Nats are the front runner according to reports this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 10:17 AM) If he signs with the Nats, which fanbase will react worse, Sox or Mets? Mets for sure. If, however, the deal is extremely reasonable, our fan base will explode as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Keep in mind, the report from the Mets guy about the Nats offer not being good is probably BS. The kid is like 12 & has bought 85-90% of his followers. His tweet got no real play either. Very telling. I'd put much more stock into Nightengale & the Nats guy saying their offer was substantial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 04:15 PM) It'll be warranted if they continue to sit on their hands until the season starts. This looks like a half finished product and will probably perform like one. and then some posters ... yeah even me will think it all goes back to $$$$ and look at where the sox salary is at the start of the yr.... 120 mil. i just hate looking at this that way, but it is soooo obvious , how can anyone not see. now if the second tier of'er and another much needed position that will be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 11:14 AM) And it should be. This team is stuck in the middle & makes two makes that tells fans they are going for it & then won't pony up for a game changer like Cespedes. Makes no real sense. I just want a direction for sure. Either rebuild or go for it. Now that they've added Lawrie and Frazier to take advantage of a couple of years of this cost controlled core, they need to pony up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 09:26 AM) I know which is why it was making me mad to. LOL Its like now that the Score is the Cubs network we are going to have to deal with happy joy Cub talk all day even by our resident Sox fans that are on the Score. Of course I could just not listen. I haven't listened to that garbage station for about 7 months now and don't miss it one bit! Do the same!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Jon HeymanVerified account @JonHeyman 3m3 minutes ago Nats reportedly back involved with cespedes. They seemed set in OF, but could trade to open spot. @Ken_Rosenthal on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 10:10 AM) Morosi retweets just about anything Rosenthal tweets. Morosi is not good at his job. I think I could do better than he could do. I know baseball pretty damn well, but I don't get paid do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Sign an OF already @chisox2727 41m41 minutes ago Just left a meeting at the Ritz Carlton and passed Cespedes in the lobby! Josh Nelson, Host of SouthSideSox RT'd this. lol. If people wanna know, that's in downtown Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:15 AM) That would be my disappointment, but if they move on to the next tier, I'm fine with that. Could end up as a blessing in disguise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Cespedes > Fowler = Jackson > Pearce > Everyone else > Avi Yeah they need an OF, but which one? Still a few options. Washington isn't a great fit for Yo, but they've signed players they didn't need before (Scherzer for example). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 10:22 AM) Jon HeymanVerified account @JonHeyman 3m3 minutes ago Nats reportedly back involved with cespedes. They seemed set in OF, but could trade to open spot. @Ken_Rosenthal on this. Who's gonna take Werth and that terrible contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:18 AM) Couldn't agree more Echo your guys sentiments here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 10:04 AM) In terms of media reports, all signs point to the Nationals wrapping this up soon. We'll see. What media reports? I've heard conflicting reports since late last night... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (spiderman @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 04:18 PM) If the only teams remaining in these discussions are only with the White Sox and Mets, and the Mets are not going beyond 1 year, why would the White Sox need to go from 3 to 4 years. The only reason I can think is if they believe Cespedes will take the Mets offer over the White Sox. Have any other teams been linked to Cespedes? Is Washington a serious player? for me, i would think yes. i looked at the NL East and see that still wide open. maybe with nat't being a little fav. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) I'm assuming something will get done before tomorrow night. (Cespedes or a different OF option) The fans will be all over KW and Hahn during the Q&A session about it. Edited January 21, 2016 by GreatScott82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:23 AM) What media reports? I've heard conflicting reports since late last night... Rosenthal, Nightengale, & now Mirosi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 10:19 AM) The Nats are the front runner according to reports this morning. PLease cite the source that said the Nats are the frontrunner... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 04:23 PM) Could end up as a blessing in disguise. If I knew the Sox were going to take the money they're offering Cespedes and use it elsewhere, I'd be totally fine with that. Just don't want to see them not get Cespedes and say he was a special circumstance and that they're going to stick with Avi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 10:25 AM) Rosenthal, Nightengale, & now Mirosi. I don't see anywhere on Nightengale's twitter where he says the Nat's offer is the "strongest". Maybe im missing something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 10:23 AM) Could end up as a blessing in disguise. This. Cespedes will probably revert back to his 13-14 numbers next couple years. While that is still a good player and makes the Sox better, it is worth nowhere near ~$25M a year. I will be disappointed if he goes elsewhere, but would only be truly mad if it ends up being a 3-4 year deal under $22M AAV. 4 years and $90M would be my max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (staxx @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 04:26 PM) I don't see anywhere on Nightengale's twitter where he says the Nat's offer is the "strongest". Maybe im missing something Supposedly on MLB network Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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