Chicago White Sox Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I'd be happy with either guy, but would prefer Gordon at this point. His OBP in the two-hole makes Abreu that much more valuable, plus he's just an all-around good baseball player (something this organzation desperately needs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Hurray for thread hopping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 To me, it doesn't matter. Cespedes still plays decent enough defense that his bat could be worth more runs than Gordon's defense and his bat in the end. Factor in the draft pick, Cespedes might be the better option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 12:39 PM) I'd be happy with either guy, but would prefer Gordon at this point. His OBP in the two-hole makes Abreu that much more valuable, plus he's just an all-around good baseball player (something this organzation desperately needs). Good point. Is Melky going to be the #2 hitter if we don't bring in Gordon (as opposed to Cespedes)? I'd rather have Melky down the lineup a bit into a run producing slot and have Gordon and his higher OBP hitting in front of Abreu. Melky out of the 2 hole extends the lineup by pushing Frazier, Melky and Laroche further down the order. Cespedes is a much sexier bat, but Gordon probably makes them a better team top to bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 12:43 PM) Good point. Is Melky going to be the #2 hitter if we don't bring in Gordon (as opposed to Cespedes)? I'd rather have Melky down the lineup a bit into a run producing slot and have Gordon and his higher OBP hitting in front of Abreu. Melky out of the 2 hole extends the lineup by pushing Frazier, Melky and Laroche further down the order. Cespedes is a much sexier bat, but Gordon probably makes them a better team top to bottom. Melky would bat 2 if we get Cespedes. He would bat 5th if we get Gordon. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 12:43 PM) To me, it doesn't matter. Cespedes still plays decent enough defense that his bat could be worth more runs than Gordon's defense and his bat in the end. Factor in the draft pick, Cespedes might be the better option. I am having the same thought but I just cant get past the wild card that Cespedes is happily traded by everyone that has had him on their team. He has to be such a douche. However the Tigers seem like they have some interest to bring him back so he cant be that bad, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 12:43 PM) Good point. Is Melky going to be the #2 hitter if we don't bring in Gordon (as opposed to Cespedes)? I'd rather have Melky down the lineup a bit into a run producing slot and have Gordon and his higher OBP hitting in front of Abreu. Melky out of the 2 hole extends the lineup by pushing Frazier, Melky and Laroche further down the order. Cespedes is a much sexier bat, but Gordon probably makes them a better team top to bottom. These are my predicted lineups: W/ Gordon: Eaton CF Gordon LF Abreu 1B/DH Frazier 3B Cabrera RF Lawrie 2B LaRoche DH/1B Platoon C Saladino SS W/ Cespedes: Eaton CF Cabrera RF/LF Abreu 1B/DH Cespedes LF/RF Frazier 3B LaRoche DH/1B Lawrie 2B Platoon C Saladino SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Max Wildstein @MaxWildstein Source: #WhiteSox were having "deep" discussions with Yoenis Cespedes before Christmas. Don't know where talks are now. This kid/guy is a scout.com MLB writer with 9.5K followers, so it could be newsworthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 12:47 PM) I am having the same thought but I just cant get past the wild card that Cespedes is happily traded by everyone that has had him on their team. He has to be such a douche. However the Tigers seem like they have some interest to bring him back so he cant be that bad, right? He supposedly good friends with Abreu, so I'm guessing he can't be that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 James Fox @JamesFox917 Seems to me that Cespedes talk is posturing for the #WhiteSox to land Gordon. We shall see. Brian Bilek @ChiSoxraBBit 1m1 minute ago Brian Bilek Retweeted James Fox This. The timing of nat'l leaks is important. Sox are interested in Cespedes but Gordon is priority #1 this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 It may be irrelevant but I just like the lineup better knowing there is a Lawrie in the bottom third of it. He at least has some capability of providing some offense but in a lineup that has Gordon in the two hole that bottom third of the order will be an anchor weighing that lineup down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 10:51 AM) Max Wildstein @MaxWildstein Source: #WhiteSox were having "deep" discussions with Yoenis Cespedes before Christmas. Don't know where talks are now. This kid/guy is a scout.com MLB writer with 9.5K followers, so it could be newsworthy. Max is a good dude & a friend of mine but I've never once been convinced that he has any real 1st hand sources... Take it FWIW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 12:51 PM) He supposedly good friends with Abreu, so I'm guessing he can't be that bad. I thought there was some tension between them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 12:55 PM) I thought there was some tension between them? I thought that tension was with Puig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 12:53 PM) It may be irrelevant but I just like the lineup better knowing there is a Lawrie in the bottom third of it. He at least has some capability of providing some offense but in a lineup that has Gordon in the two hole that bottom third of the order will be an anchor weighing that lineup down. The nice thing about the 16 line up is that especially if we sign another OF, there are a lot fewer easy outs in it. Lawrie and Frazier are such huge offensive upgrades, and the catching position should be much more stable with Avila and Navarro back there. Soto gave a nice start to the season, but was a buster for the 2nd half. Flowers was Flowers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 12:52 PM) James Fox @JamesFox917 Seems to me that Cespedes talk is posturing for the #WhiteSox to land Gordon. We shall see. Brian Bilek @ChiSoxraBBit 1m1 minute ago Brian Bilek Retweeted James Fox This. The timing of nat'l leaks is important. Sox are interested in Cespedes but Gordon is priority #1 this week. I disagree. I'm of the belief that the Sox will not give up a pick to sign a free agent and that the Gordon interest was attempting to drive up his price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 12:55 PM) I thought there was some tension between them? I don't know if there is or not. The only thing I saw was before Abreu came over, Cespedes was telling people he would be a star in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 QUOTE (GREEDY @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 01:01 PM) I disagree. I'm of the belief that the Sox will not give up a pick to sign a free agent and that the Gordon interest was attempting to drive up his price. This very well could be true as well. Interesting news nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 The best news? There is news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Merkin doesn't think the Sox go over 100MM for an OF. That lines up with Gordon more than Yo. I think we can banish Upton from the convo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 12:56 PM) I thought that tension was with Puig? Ya that's what I am thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 QUOTE (daggins @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 01:05 PM) Merkin doesn't think the Sox go over 100MM for an OF. That lines up with Gordon more than Yo. I think we can banish Upton from the convo. Unless you get Cespedes on a 4 year deal with an option maybe. 4 years 80-85 million I think could land Cespedes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 QUOTE (daggins @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 11:05 AM) Merkin doesn't think the Sox go over 100MM for an OF. That lines up with Gordon more than Yo. I think we can banish Upton from the convo. FWIW Merkin & Hayes were both saying they didn't expect any of the big 3 a week or two ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Well this thread just became a whole lot more interesting and its about time the rumor mill picked up again. I'm really curious about the level of interest in Cespedes from the Angels and Giants. Both teams are sitting at about 165M in payroll so they could afford Cespedes without being hit by the luxury tax as long as Cespedes AAV does not exceed 24M. The Sox could have serious competition from those teams for Cespedes. Oh to be a fly on the wall in these discussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 01:09 PM) FWIW Merkin & Hayes were both saying they didn't expect any of the big 3 a week or two ago. iirc neither of them though Frazier was happening either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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