fathom Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 03:46 AM) Well this board sounds like it's going to be a fun place this year. And you really thought there wouldn't be a meltdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 08:46 PM) Well this board sounds like it's going to be a fun place this year. There will be more people on the board than at the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 08:49 PM) And you really thought there wouldn't be a meltdown I'll admit it, that was naïve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 08:33 PM) No one is expecting them to spend "a lot", just some. As in on this one contract to a top tier talent to address a glaring weakness on the ball club. This team is now one of only three teams in baseball to never offer a contract greater than $70M. They can swing it, and they should; that is, if they are serious about winning and taking advantage of the window of opportunity they bring up all of the time as it relates to the prime years of the team's core. You mean like they did when they signed Joey Belle to the richest contract at that time. I believe it was 5/55. It worked out well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 The light at the end of the tunnel is an on-coming train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 No faith on this board sheesh. I feel like I'm the only confident one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 08:56 PM) The light at the end of the tunnel is an on-coming train. Things aren't all that bad. I think I'll draft Upton for my fantasy baseball teams! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (Saufley @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 02:49 AM) There will be more people on the board than at the games. QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 02:49 AM) I'll admit it, that was naïve. On the bright side at least Q won't have to face Cespedes 6 games a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 08:56 PM) You mean like they did when they signed Joey Belle to the richest contract at that time. I believe it was 5/55. It worked out well. Are you really using an example from 19 years ago? And while Albert underperformed in his first season, he put up 9 WAR over his two seasons with us. Not exactly the disaster you are painting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 10:01 PM) On the bright side at least Q won't have to face Cespedes 6 games a year Cespedes agent is meeting w Indians tonight............................................................................................. ........................just kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:02 PM) Are you really using an example from 19 years ago? And while Albert underperformed in his first season, he put up 9 WAR over his two seasons with us. Not exactly the disaster you are painting. I never said he didn't play well. Im just using itas an example of big contracts aren't always the way to go. Even on the few that that white sox have handed out. While he played well it didnt get them anywhere. Would Jaime Navarro be a better example. I would not hand out a contract like the one the tigers offered. Edited January 19, 2016 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) So now the Sox HAVE to sign Cespedes. The optics otherwise will be a public relations disaster for this team, and an abject organizational embarrassment. No team during the past five, six weeks has been tied into being "in" on not one, not two, but all three of the so-called "top tier" free agent outfielders more so than the White Sox. We were "interested" in Gordon. We were "in" on Upton. We were "considering" Cespedes. Then the leak. The leak that we were only interested in making an offer to any of the three of them for "three years or LESS". Enter the small market intra-divisional Royals, who move in and lock up Gordon on a four year contract. Tonight, another AL Central rival, the Tigers, sign Upton to a six year deal. And this on the heals of our intra-city rival Cubs signing Heyward to an eight year contract. Welcome to market economics! If another team swoops in now and snags Cespedes on something resembling more what the market is bearing vs. this three year offer business the Sox are operating under, then it will be a colossal failure of Hahn, Williams, and Reinsdorf. It will call into question their credibility when they claim over and over and over again their strong desire to return to the postseason as quickly as possible, and thereby maximize the window of opportunity with the current core. I trust they realize this, and will soon be announcing the signing of Yoenis Cespedes to be our left fielder and clean-up hitter for the foreseeable future. If not, well, it'll be quite the black eye on this management team's reputation, and will seriously call into question the capabilities of the team's ownership and management. Edited January 19, 2016 by Thad Bosley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 03:32 AM) So now the Sox HAVE to sign Cespedes. The optics otherwise will be a public relations disaster for this team, and an abject organizational embarrassment. No team during the past five, six weeks has been tied into being "in" on not one, not two, but all three of the so-called "top tier" free agent outfielders more than the White Sox. We were "interested" in Gordon. We were "in" on Upton. We were "considering" Cespedes. Then the leak. The leak that we were only interested in making an offer to any of the three of them for "three years or LESS". Enter the small market intra-divisional Royals, who move in and lock up Gordon on a four year contract. Tonight, another AL Central rival, the Tigers, sign Upton to a six year deal. And this on the heals of our intra-city rival Cubs signing Heyward to an eight year contract. Welcome to market economics! If another team swoops in now and snags Cespedes on something resembling more what the market is bearing vs. this three year offer business the Sox are operating under, then it will be a colossal failure of Hahn, Williams, and Reinsdorf. It will call into question their credibility when they claim over and over and over again their strong desire to return to the postseason as quickly as possible, and thereby maximize the window of opportunity with the current core. I trust they realize this, and will soon be announcing the signing of Yoenis Cespedes to be our left fielder and clean-up hitter for the foreseeable future. If not, well, it'll be quite the black eye on this management team's reputation, and will seriously call into question the capabilities of the team's ownership and management. I am not a big fan of Cespedes, but I do agree they will look awful in the eyes of their fans if Cespedes goes elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:32 PM) So now the Sox HAVE to sign Cespedes. The optics otherwise will be a public relations disaster for this team, and an abject organizational embarrassment. No team during the past five, six weeks has been tied into being "in" on not one, not two, but all three of the so-called "top tier" free agent outfielders more so than the White Sox. We were "interested" in Gordon. We were "in" on Upton. We were "considering" Cespedes. Then the leak. The leak that we were only interested in making an offer to any of the three of them for "three years or LESS". Enter the small market intra-divisional Royals, who move in and lock up Gordon on a four year contract. Tonight, another AL Central rival, the Tigers, sign Upton to a six year deal. And this on the heals of our intra-city rival Cubs signing Heyward to an eight year contract. Welcome to market economics! If another team swoops in now and snags Cespedes on something resembling more what the market is bearing vs. this three year offer business the Sox are operating under, then it will be a colossal failure of Hahn, Williams, and Reinsdorf. It will call into question their credibility when they claim over and over and over again their strong desire to return to the postseason as quickly as possible, and thereby maximize the window of opportunity with the current core. I trust they realize this, and will soon be announcing the signing of Yoenis Cespedes to be our left fielder and clean-up hitter for the foreseeable future. If not, well, it'll be quite the black eye on this management team's reputation, and will seriously call into question the capabilities of the team's ownership and management. At this point, 1 playoff appearance since '05, they will have to sign Cespedes to make me NOT think that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:32 PM) So now the Sox HAVE to sign Cespedes. The optics otherwise will be a public relations disaster for this team, and an abject organizational embarrassment. No team during the past five, six weeks has been tied into being "in" on not one, not two, but all three of the so-called "top tier" free agent outfielders more so than the White Sox. We were "interested" in Gordon. We were "in" on Upton. We were "considering" Cespedes. Then the leak. The leak that we were only interested in making an offer to any of the three of them for "three years or LESS". Enter the small market intra-divisional Royals, who move in and lock up Gordon on a four year contract. Tonight, another AL Central rival, the Tigers, sign Upton to a six year deal. And this on the heals of our intra-city rival Cubs signing Heyward to an eight year contract. Welcome to market economics! If another team swoops in now and snags Cespedes on something resembling more what the market is bearing vs. this three year offer business the Sox are operating under, then it will be a colossal failure of Hahn, Williams, and Reinsdorf. It will call into question their credibility when they claim over and over and over again their strong desire to return to the postseason as quickly as possible, and thereby maximize the window of opportunity with the current core. I trust they realize this, and will soon be announcing the signing of Yoenis Cespedes to be our left fielder and clean-up hitter for the foreseeable future. If not, well, it'll be quite the black eye on this management team's reputation, and will seriously call into question the capabilities of the team's ownership and management. So well put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan85 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:32 PM) So now the Sox HAVE to sign Cespedes. The optics otherwise will be a public relations disaster for this team, and an abject organizational embarrassment. No team during the past five, six weeks has been tied into being "in" on not one, not two, but all three of the so-called "top tier" free agent outfielders more so than the White Sox. We were "interested" in Gordon. We were "in" on Upton. We were "considering" Cespedes. Then the leak. The leak that we were only interested in making an offer to any of the three of them for "three years or LESS". Enter the small market intra-divisional Royals, who move in and lock up Gordon on a four year contract. Tonight, another AL Central rival, the Tigers, sign Upton to a six year deal. And this on the heals of our intra-city rival Cubs signing Heyward to an eight year contract. Welcome to market economics! If another team swoops in now and snags Cespedes on something resembling more what the market is bearing vs. this three year offer business the Sox are operating under, then it will be a colossal failure of Hahn, Williams, and Reinsdorf. It will call into question their credibility when they claim over and over and over again their strong desire to return to the postseason as quickly as possible, and thereby maximize the window of opportunity with the current core. I trust they realize this, and will soon be announcing the signing of Yoenis Cespedes to be our left fielder and clean-up hitter for the foreseeable future. If not, well, it'll be quite the black eye on this management team's reputation, and will seriously call into question the capabilities of the team's ownership and management. EXCELLENT post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I don't know what Sox fans are so worried about. Tomorrow, KW will take to the podium and declare Detroit made this move in an effort to be as good as the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 03:35 AM) At this point, 1 playoff appearance since '05, they will have to sign Cespedes to make me NOT think that... Allowing Ventura another year as manager is enough to get me to question ownership/management. Also waiting for Hahn to start producing a quality team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:37 PM) I don't know what Sox fans are so worried about. Tomorrow, KW will take to the podium and declare Detroit made this move in an effort to be as good as the Sox. And say avi will be the MVP lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:32 PM) So now the Sox HAVE to sign Cespedes. The optics otherwise will be a public relations disaster for this team, and an abject organizational embarrassment. No team during the past five, six weeks has been tied into being "in" on not one, not two, but all three of the so-called "top tier" free agent outfielders more so than the White Sox. We were "interested" in Gordon. We were "in" on Upton. We were "considering" Cespedes. Then the leak. The leak that we were only interested in making an offer to any of the three of them for "three years or LESS". Enter the small market intra-divisional Royals, who move in and lock up Gordon on a four year contract. Tonight, another AL Central rival, the Tigers, sign Upton to a six year deal. And this on the heals of our intra-city rival Cubs signing Heyward to an eight year contract. Welcome to market economics! If another team swoops in now and snags Cespedes on something resembling more what the market is bearing vs. this three year offer business the Sox are operating under, then it will be a colossal failure of Hahn, Williams, and Reinsdorf. It will call into question their credibility when they claim over and over and over again their strong desire to return to the postseason as quickly as possible, and thereby maximize the window of opportunity with the current core. I trust they realize this, and will soon be announcing the signing of Yoenis Cespedes to be our left fielder and clean-up hitter for the foreseeable future. If not, well, it'll be quite the black eye on this management team's reputation, and will seriously call into question the capabilities of the team's ownership and management. I've seen less drama on Jerry Springer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:37 PM) I don't know what Sox fans are so worried about. Tomorrow, KW will take to the podium and declare Detroit made this move in an effort to be as good as the Sox. Last time he said that, the Sox did win the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 10:38 PM) I've seen less drama on Jerry Springer. We know winning means little to you, so no reason to weigh in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:38 PM) And say avi will be the MVP lol Booyah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:32 PM) So now the Sox HAVE to sign Cespedes. The optics otherwise will be a public relations disaster for this team, and an abject organizational embarrassment. No team during the past five, six weeks has been tied into being "in" on not one, not two, but all three of the so-called "top tier" free agent outfielders more so than the White Sox. We were "interested" in Gordon. We were "in" on Upton. We were "considering" Cespedes. Then the leak. The leak that we were only interested in making an offer to any of the three of them for "three years or LESS". Enter the small market intra-divisional Royals, who move in and lock up Gordon on a four year contract. Tonight, another AL Central rival, the Tigers, sign Upton to a six year deal. And this on the heals of our intra-city rival Cubs signing Heyward to an eight year contract. Welcome to market economics! If another team swoops in now and snags Cespedes on something resembling more what the market is bearing vs. this three year offer business the Sox are operating under, then it will be a colossal failure of Hahn, Williams, and Reinsdorf. It will call into question their credibility when they claim over and over and over again their strong desire to return to the postseason as quickly as possible, and thereby maximize the window of opportunity with the current core. I trust they realize this, and will soon be announcing the signing of Yoenis Cespedes to be our left fielder and clean-up hitter for the foreseeable future. If not, well, it'll be quite the black eye on this management team's reputation, and will seriously call into question the capabilities of the team's ownership and management. Soxfest will be a riot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 10:38 PM) And say avi will be the MVP lol At this point if you can't get Cespedes there is no way you give up a draft pick and sign fowler, somehow someway losing that pick would hurt even more. Can't keep up with the rest of the division, you might as well throw avi back out there for another season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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