LDF Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 05:44 PM) If this were a different situation I would be more patient but they've botched a rebuild, traded 3 top 10 prospects for 2 players with 2 years of control & now are watching teams in their own division get better. They've made the commitment to go "all in", so they need to carry it out. That's my mindset. and mine as well, but at this point, which is the right course of action. i am saying they HAVE to finish what they started..... on a side note, i still won't over pay by a huge amount. btw, great post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 11:34 AM) A guy who consistently makes up stuff & is never right. Whelp s*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 10:49 AM) Alright, goodnight: Bob Nightengale @BNightengale 2m2 minutes ago The Washington #Nats and Houston #Astros, each who had expressed interest in Justin Upton, may now turn their attention to Yoenis Cespedes. I'll take the Houston OF that gets moved if they go after Cespedes. Evan Drellich said yesterday that Houston isn't interested in giving Cespedes a long, big $$ deal. I could totally see Washington doing something stupid though. We shall see. Edited January 19, 2016 by Y2JImmy0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 08:50 AM) Did they ever say anything about going "all in" though? Hahn mentioned that it's likely that they'd be adding an OF and that they weren't satisfied with the offense yet. It was also reported that the White Sox would be interested in the OF's on their terms. Then all of a sudden, fans started assuming that they'd be handing out 5-6 contracts which is just not happening. If Cespedes takes a 4 year deal, I think the White Sox are in this. If het gets 5-6, they won't be and they will move on to other options. Why else do you trade for two players with two years of control? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 While on a 12 day sabbatical - I've learned a great deal regarding hypocrisy among ambiguous ominous figures. Additionally, pink flamingo mating paterns have been analyzed. Finally, Cespedes looks to have continued sitting on his proverbial pot. Respectfully announcing to all fellow colleagues, creme brûlée cheesecake bake off begins in 18 seconds at my house. The end is near. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 If they lose out on Cespedes, give me Jackson and Pearce and call it an offseason. That's 3.3 fWAR you're adding, better D in CF, and a good platoon option with LaRoche and bat off the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (Dunt @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 10:58 AM) If they lose out on Cespedes, give me Jackson and Pearce and call it an offseason. That's 3.3 fWAR you're adding, better D in CF, and a good platoon option with LaRoche and bat off the bench. Add Fister and Lincecum to that package and I'd be ok with it. But if the Sox got both Jackson and Pearce, what would happen to Shuck? What about Avi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 11:03 AM) Add Fister and Lincecum to that package and I'd be ok with it. But if the Sox got both Jackson and Pearce, what would happen to Shuck? What about Avi? Trade Avi for high leverage relief pitching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 11:03 AM) Add Fister and Lincecum to that package and I'd be ok with it. But if the Sox got both Jackson and Pearce, what would happen to Shuck? What about Avi? What is the fascination with Lincecum? He has been horrible for 4 years in a big park in the NL, and he is coming off surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (Dunt @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 04:58 PM) If they lose out on Cespedes, give me Jackson and Pearce and call it an offseason. That's 3.3 fWAR you're adding, better D in CF, and a good platoon option with LaRoche and bat off the bench. if they lose out on cesp.... i will go the jackson rt and then trade.... 2 team needs to rid themselves on 2 cf'ers / of'ers..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 So I'm just catching up to this thread, but given the Upton signing (money & years), does anyone realistically think the Sox are going to offer 20+M for Cespedes and does anyone actually think the market doesn't indicate he'll get that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 05:03 PM) Add Fister and Lincecum to that package and I'd be ok with it. But if the Sox got both Jackson and Pearce, what would happen to Shuck? What about Avi? i would love to take a chance on the bold..... anyone remember britt burns sp ..... he had a really bad hip. so the rehab will continue till middle of june.... according to page on some site talking about his injury, a 1 yr and mutual opt for more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Evan Drellich @EvanDrellich 3m3 minutes ago Source w knowledge of Astros talks with Justin Upton noted they never got "serious.” Astros not believed to have talked much more than 3 yrs https://twitter.com/EvanDrellich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 10:56 AM) Why else do you trade for two players with two years of control? To drastically improve 2 positions in the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 05:06 PM) What is the fascination with Lincecum? He has been horrible for 4 years in a big park in the NL, and he is coming off surgery. and you have a point, yr 15, was not too good, maybe b/c of injury.... who knows, but he has been really good. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/linceti01.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 05:09 PM) So I'm just catching up to this thread, but given the Upton signing (money & years), does anyone realistically think the Sox are going to offer 20+M for Cespedes and does anyone actually think the market doesn't indicate he'll get that? for me, i do not know and i wish i can formed an opinion on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 11:06 AM) What is the fascination with Lincecum? He has been horrible for 4 years in a big park in the NL, and he is coming off surgery. His hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 05:12 PM) To drastically improve 2 positions in the lineup. agreed.... with the reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (Dunt @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 10:58 AM) If they lose out on Cespedes, give me Jackson and Pearce and call it an offseason. That's 3.3 fWAR you're adding, better D in CF, and a good platoon option with LaRoche and bat off the bench. I'd like this plan as well. Throw in Doug Fister and it'd be a good offseason. vs RHP 1. Eaton RF 2. Cabrera LF 3. Abreu 1B 4. Frazier 3B 5. LaRoche DH 6. Lawrie 2B 7. Avila C 8. Jackson CF 9. Saladino SS vs LHP 1. Eaton RF 2. Cabrera LF/DH 3. Abreu 1B/DH 4. Frazier 3B 5. Lawrie 2B 6. Pearce 1B/DH/LF 7. Navarro C 8. Jackson CF 9. Saladino SS Offense would be better with Cespedes but this allows you to sit LaRoche vs LHP and it improves the outfield defense tremendously while allowing you to keep 3 top 50 draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Why not Raburn instead of Pearce? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 11:11 AM) Evan Drellich @EvanDrellich 3m3 minutes ago Source w knowledge of Astros talks with Justin Upton noted they never got "serious.” Astros not believed to have talked much more than 3 yrs https://twitter.com/EvanDrellich Good to hear. Where would the Nats play Cespedes? They have Werth, Taylor, Revere, and Harper in their OF already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 05:18 PM) Good to hear. Where would the Nats play Cespedes? They have Werth, Taylor, Revere, and Harper in their OF already. To me, sure seems like they're trying to raise his price to screw the Mets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 11:17 AM) Why not Raburn instead of Pearce? Because you just know Raburn would just suck on this team. He'd rather be facing the Sox than being with them, imo lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 11:18 AM) To me, sure seems like they're trying to raise his price to screw the Mets True. I really think that all the Sox have to do is add that 4th year with an option 5th year and that can get Cespedes to the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 11:15 AM) His hair. He got a haircut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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