LDF Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 08:53 PM) I agree that haven't done well. I think it started last year. Previous to that I think it was a "win now" each year. I think it shifted last year. I'm never expecting all of the minor leaguers to work out. As a matter of fact, I'm expecting most won't. However, if you keep adding at least 2-3 each year some will work out and then they will begin to form a pipeline and be more consistent. It won't happen for a few years. However, good trades as they've done this year and short term FA deals as they did last year will help to improve the team as this happens. I have nothing against the FAs or even signing Cespedes, as long as they are short deals. Save the long deals for their own players, the ones they know. You knows I may be wrong and they find they really like Frazier and he wants to stay. you really make a good point. i think it is a must to sign Frazier and even lawrie to an extension.... so they can bridge the infield until the sox have prospects to take over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I wonder if Desmond would be willing to transition to playing outfield. If he is, that's an interesting possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 08:56 PM) Both Cespedes AND Desmond this is a pipe dream and i know it. but if the sox does sign them, yeah i can see the sox being a playoff contender. why not. the only hole will be ..... the DJ and the manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 That's what Desmond potentially brings...or he plays SS and Anderson ends up in CF or LF potentially. But it's the kind of thing that would probably require a full offseason of preparation. For now, he's a SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 02:53 PM) I agree that haven't done well. I think it started last year. Previous to that I think it was a "win now" each year. I think it shifted last year. I'm never expecting all of the minor leaguers to work out. As a matter of fact, I'm expecting most won't. However, if you keep adding at least 2-3 each year some will work out and then they will begin to form a pipeline and be more consistent. It won't happen for a few years. However, good trades as they've done this year and short term FA deals as they did last year will help to improve the team as this happens. I have nothing against the FAs or even signing Cespedes, as long as they are short deals. Save the long deals for their own players, the ones they know. You knows I may be wrong and they find they really like Frazier and he wants to stay. I don't disagree with any of this, and I do think lots of improvements have been made. I do think scouting is better. I am intrigued by Steverson's role as hitting coordinator on lower levels we are hearing about. I am excited for Marco Paddy's returns. But these two things are driving me nuts: - That we are middling in our team strategy for only incremental progress at the ML level, and never cashing in on excellent value if it means temporary regression - Not spending on international FA There are these great value areas where sox are not looking at because they think "rebuilding" will kill attendance (its dead), and its preventing a period of rapid improvement when that value hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 08:55 PM) I still think we need a RHP starter. If we sign Cespedes, who is worth a shot? I know we aren't in on a guy like Gallardo. What's left out there? I predicted Fister awhile ago. me too. but i will not mention it until later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 02:59 PM) this is a pipe dream and i know it. but if the sox does sign them, yeah i can see the sox being a playoff contender. why not. the only hole will be ..... the DJ and the manager. Darrin Jackson unhappy, SMASH!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 03:01 PM) me too. but i will not mention it until later. Fister, Latos, Lincecum, Cliff Lee with a wing and a prayer based on his elbow Gallardo looking for $15-17.5 million per year for 5 years. And the draft pick is lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I've already told them I'll sign up for my season ticket package again this year if they sign Cespedes. I will absolutely fly from Texas to see them play. Just get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 03:05 PM) I've already told them I'll sign up for my season ticket package again this year if they sign Cespedes. I will absolutely fly from Texas to see them play. Just get it done. You're the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 02:42 PM) http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/resetting-t...oenis-cespedes/ Article about all the remaining candidates and their likelihood. Strangely, he puts Baltimore as the current favorites, followed by the Mets. Says we're a second-tier candidate along with the Angels and Giants, and calls the Astros an intriguing dark-horse. Hard to believe the Giants and Orioles would still be possibilities. He also says that Detroit is all in at this point and need a DH. Apparently Victor is just retiring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 for no one .... and everyone. someone made a great post on the attendance..... i think the sox has ..... go in, b/c of the attendance. the side south are in a war, whether anyone wants to think about it or not, they will be in a war for media attention, for fans attending, the commercial revenue and many other things, esp with the cable ratings and money from that venue. so in essence, they need to continue. the northside has done a great job but they are limited, the sox are only limited but the FO shortsightedness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 03:06 PM) You're the man. God damn right. But really I have a ton of miles to use. Might as well use them on my baseball team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 09:05 PM) Fister, Latos, Lincecum, Cliff Lee with a wing and a prayer based on his elbow Gallardo looking for $15-17.5 million per year for 5 years. And the draft pick is lost. i am tooo confuse just concertinaing on will he or will he not to think beyond that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I re-upped my modest package after Frazier. This time, I'm just going to give away april/may tickets. God I hate going to games then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 09:10 PM) I re-upped my modest package after Frazier. This time, I'm just going to give away april/may tickets. God I hate going to games then. if you owned a business... a good tax write off to give them to your clients or customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Cespedes would be cool and the power bat would be nice, but I'm starting to lean more towards the sign Desmond and then go after Ajax camp.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 to everyone .................... many thanks for a great discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 If they add Cespedes I'll be there for opening weekend in Chicago when they open at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 @bnightengale The #Marlins have no interest in signing Cespedes, #Marlins prez David Samson says, citing crowded OF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I will buy 2 extra churros per game attended. That should be enticing to the FO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 03:14 PM) Cespedes would be cool and the power bat would be nice, but I'm starting to lean more towards the sign Desmond and then go after Ajax camp.. I'd be happy with this, though, the main reason i like cespedes is he is an addition that does not compromise defense like Desmond does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Last year after the plethora of moves, I bought more game tickets than usual to show my support. As of right now, I need a reason to buy tickets to games in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 04:00 PM) That's what Desmond potentially brings...or he plays SS and Anderson ends up in CF or LF potentially. But it's the kind of thing that would probably require a full offseason of preparation. For now, he's a SS. Desmond is much worse defensively at SS than Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 @bmags I am a student of UIC and live close to park, would love some tickets in april / May if you are giving them out. I would be very grateful and post well to honor your name! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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