hi8is Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 If they would have just signed him when he defected then this massively long circular logic of a thread likely never occurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 12:57 AM) Who? Because I don't agree with that. The sox have been long rumored for Cespedes. It'll be a letdown if we don't get him and sign someone like Fowler. let down yeah i agree. but what if he is still insisting on a 6 yr contract and at 25 mil a yr.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 12:57 AM) Who? Because I don't agree with that. The sox have been long rumored for Cespedes. It'll be a letdown if we don't get him and sign someone like Fowler. Big difference between speculated interest and actual interest. Coming into the offseason, no one would have thought the Sox would go after someone at 22-25 per Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 06:08 PM) Big difference between speculated interest and actual interest. Coming into the offseason, no one would have thought the Sox would go after someone at 22-25 per Exactly. Too many fans bought into the media hype, especially the local media. All do respect to Chuck Garfien ( I kinda like the guy) but this thread was started due to a tweet from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 07:08 PM) Big difference between speculated interest and actual interest. Coming into the offseason, no one would have thought the Sox would go after someone at 22-25 per We were interested at the trade deadline and all of the national media guys are reporting our interest. So I'll take Ken Rosenthal and Heyman at their word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 12:13 AM) We were interested at the trade deadline and all of the national media guys are reporting our interest. So I'll take Ken Rosenthal and Heyman at their word. Sure at shorter years and a discount. Same as about ten teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 01:12 AM) Exactly. Too many fans bought into the media hype, especially the local media. All do respect to Chuck Garfien ( I kinda like the guy) but this thread was started due to a tweet from him. but i am actually wondering how many were from cespy group. enuf for hou to come out and say those rumors were wrong, or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Don't go past 3 years. Stay strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 07:33 PM) Don't go past 3 years. Stay strong. Why not 4 year 88 mil, with two opt out years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 06:39 PM) Why not 4 year 88 mil, with two opt out years? I'd be hopeful, but expecting it to be a terrible contract for the Sox. If he has an offer out there for 4+ years, I hope he takes it one of these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 06:30 PM) but i am actually wondering how many were from cespy group. enuf for hou to come out and say those rumors were wrong, or something like that. I doubt the local media was directly swayed by the Cespedes camp, just the usual stuff we see and hear from the local media every off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 06:43 PM) He tweeted this earlier: @JustinLevineVAV 25m25 minutes ago DEVELOPING: Washington @Nationals aggressively pursuing free agent outfielder Yoenis Cespedes. Stay tuned for more! Great. Another pimple faced "insider". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 07:44 PM) Great. Another pimple faced "insider". Posts deleted, dude has less followers than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtsoxfan Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 http://www.hngn.com/articles/171247/201601...free-agency.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (whtsoxfan @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 06:48 PM) http://www.hngn.com/articles/171247/201601...free-agency.htm Not sure which is scarier. The idea of signing Desmond or the pic of Demi Moore at the bottom of that page. Maybe signing Desmond doesnt look so bad after all. Edited January 20, 2016 by BlackSox13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 04:57 PM) Not sure which is scarier. The idea of signing Desmond or the pic of Demi Moore at the bottom of that page. Maybe signing Desmond doesnt look so bad after all. I'm totally for Desmond on a one year deal with an addition of Jackson as well. Either that or Cespedes.... The total production between those two options is about equal I'd say when factoring in their respective current replacement options. Total contract value for the year would be about the same I suspect as well. Cespedes, between 22 and 25 million. Desmond ( 12 to 15 ) and Jackson ( 8 to 10 ). Just pulling notpoop out of my notbutt. Edited January 20, 2016 by hi8is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I am curious about the Nats and how serious they are. They have Strasburg coming up in free agency and Harper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 05:15 PM) Ugh. I feel like we waited too long. Now that Cespedes is the only one left, his demands can only go up. What happened to all those "we've got him right where we want him" posts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 06:00 PM) let down yeah i agree. but what if he is still insisting on a 6 yr contract and at 25 mil a yr.... then I'll be the first one to open and hold the door for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 The sense I got early on was that their interest in Gordon/Upton was overblown, as they were never willing to do more than a 3-year deal. Cespedes may still be an option, but as we saw with J-Up last night, the long-term deals are still out there. This is what Chris Cotillo had to say about it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 QUOTE (Saufley @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 01:29 AM) What happened to all those "we've got him right where we want him" posts? Don't forget "posturing" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 07:33 PM) Don't forget "posturing" Yea, when I get all worked up I forget about that part of the dance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2016011...orts/160118729/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Don't forget "Rick Hahn is the greatest poker player since...." As good as the Lawrie and Frazier deals still look (on paper), it's still curious why you would make those moves if you knew you were limited on the payroll side. Hopefully it wasn't all predicated on being able to move Adam LaRoche (to free up roughly $5-6 million), because that would be a sad state of affairs indeed. All we heard last year was that none of the players we gave up and none of the contracts we signed would have that much of an impact on the overall direction of the franchise. Well, clearly, that was not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 07:42 PM) Don't forget "Rick Hahn is the greatest poker player since...." As good as the Lawrie and Frazier deals still look (on paper), it's still curious why you would make those moves if you knew you were limited on the payroll side. Hopefully it wasn't all predicated on being able to move Adam LaRoche (to free up roughly $5-6 million), because that would be a sad state of affairs indeed. All we heard last year was that none of the players we gave up and none of the contracts we signed would have that much of an impact on the overall direction of the franchise. Well, clearly, that was not the case. Thumbs up!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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