ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I'm back in study hall. If something happened now, that would be nice. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 11:03 AM) No doubt in my mind that they have had communications with the other options This. I think they have at least felt out some of the others. It wouldn't make any sense not to for as long as the Cespedes market has been locked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 When are they gonna announce the trade for Podsednik and Dye signing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 10:30 AM) Again, if the Nats work out a trade, who would go? Do they trade Revere? He plays CF and will be their leadoff hitter. Nats don't want Rendon leading off. Werth? Who wants that contract, and a declining aging player? I don't see a fit at all I wonder if they could be done with Zimmerman. Move Werth into 1B and fill out the OF with Harper, Revere, and Cespedes, dramatically improves defense and doesn't make them reliant on Zimmerman ever being healthy and regaining form. Thats the only scenario that makes much sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 11:40 AM) Its over. Seriously. Isn't Jay Z Yo's agent? Jay follows no one on Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 What's pants looking for contract wise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 06:06 PM) I wonder if they could be done with Zimmerman. Move Werth into 1B and fill out the OF with Harper, Revere, and Cespedes, dramatically improves defense and doesn't make them reliant on Zimmerman ever being healthy and regaining form. Thats the only scenario that makes much sense to me. Or they know Zimmerman is going to get busted for PEDs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) There was a suggestion where they either deal Revere again or play him a few times a week giving the injury plagued Werth more time off. Revere could also get into every game via double switch, pinch hitting, pinch running, defensive sub. Although I don't really know who would leadoff if they signed him and cut Revere's playing time (Murphy? Seems more like a #2 though). Potential Nats lineup: Murphy 2B Rendon 3B Harper RF Cespedes CF Zimmerman 1B Werth LF Ramos C Espinosa SS Edited January 21, 2016 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 11:08 AM) What's pants looking for contract wise? He doesn't have a leg to stand on during the negotiations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 11:08 AM) What's pants looking for contract wise? Rowland died in 1969, so I'd guess cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 11:09 AM) There was a suggestion where they either deal Revere again or play him a few times a week giving the injury plagued Werth more time off. Revere could also get into every game via double switch, pinch hitting, pinch running, defensive sub. Although I don't really know who would leadoff if they signed him and cut Revere's playing time (Murphy? Seems more like a #2 though). Potential Nats lineup: Murphy 2B Rendon 3B Harper RF Cespedes CF Zimmerman 1B Werth LF Ramos C Espinosa SS That's a good lineup, but where is Trea Turner? I thought he was their top prospect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 From all reports, they offered Upton a better player 2 years younger than Cespedes 3 years. Now the reports say the are the frontrunners for Cespedes, and he is going to get at least 5 years. Now, unless they plan on playing Cespedes in CF, decreasing a lot of his value, this does not add up. It has to be something with the Mets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 11:13 AM) That's a good lineup, but where is Trea Turner? I thought he was their top prospect? Likely starting the year in the minors from everything I've read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 For the record the guy on Twitter is Zimmermans agent as well as other players on the Nats https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nation...xGUTR_blog.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Someone in NYDN said the whole Nats interest could be a way to drive the price up for the Mets. Again who knows at this point but the last time Yo had a formal offer on the table that team signs Chris Davis the next day. This situation is still very fluid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 09:02 AM) Their owner is about as wealthy as anyone, and their payroll is well down from last season. I just don't see the fit. I am probably wrong, but I think if they really are engaged, they may be trying to get the Sox or another team to offer more years and keep him off the Mets. This could very well be true, I just think with what happened with Upton, the reality is Cespedes is getting at least 4 years @ 20M+/year and I'd be surprised if the Sox were willing to go there. I think the Sox effort is likely to be creative and put more options / incentives to try and hedge themselves (which is smart) but the reality is, someone else is going to make the bigger offer (given who else is out there). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) 4 year deal with a 5th year vesting option or team option with a decent buyout. Sign him up. Edited January 21, 2016 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Yes the situation is very fluid and can change in short order. But it seems like this is the sprint to the finish; the market has whittled it's way down to the "favorites" stage, those teams have been announced (NYM, CWS, WAS), and they've been slugging it out in negotiations for a few days now at least. Just doesn't seem to be a lot of room for much more talk, re-negotiating, etc. Wouldn't be surprised if this whole thing gets wrapped up later tonight, whoever it's going to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 At the start of the off-season if you were to ask me if I would have wanted the Sox to make a huge investment on Cespedes I would have hesitated and maybe would have said no. Now after investing a lot of time on here and following the story everywhere I am wanting it to happen so badly for the wrong reasons. While I wont be mad if they do sign him I also believe that they are probably better off not having this guy in the long run. We will probably be regretting this move a year or two from now if it does happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) Cespedes seems engaged more when the s*** is on the line, as reflected in his career average with RISP and his carrying the Mets to the division title down the stretch last season. If the Sox can put a legitimate contending team on the field the next couple of seasons (our so-called window of opportunity), I'd feel pretty good that Cespedes would stay engaged while playing for the Sox, or whomever he ends up signing with for that matter. Edited January 21, 2016 by blackmooncreeping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I just want my life back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (hi8is @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 11:36 AM) I just want my life back. lol same here. I've been addicted to this forum for a month now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 11:36 AM) lol same here. I've been addicted to this forum for a month now. I feel ya. Fortunately for me I mostly just follow at work. When I'm at home, I've just about had it staring at screens (phone, computer) all day. Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtrem Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 QUOTE (hi8is @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 12:36 PM) I just want my life back. What do you think can we get 400 before Yo signs?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Looking at a Nat's message board and it seems like they are trying to figure out why and how Cespedes fits their team too. They seem like they are cool with it but not ecstatic, just confused LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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