Sockin Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 09:50 AM) @Ken_Rosenthal Sources: #WhiteSox would not go 4 years on Gordon, as @BNightengale said. Will they adjust on Cespedes? Gordon 32 this season, Cespedes 30. .....they're seriously sticking to the 3 year thing? Welp, goodbye Cespedes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (Sockin @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 09:51 AM) .....they're seriously sticking to the 3 year thing? Welp, goodbye Cespedes. Ya if that's the case there is zero chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 09:50 AM) @Ken_Rosenthal Sources: #WhiteSox would not go 4 years on Gordon, as @BNightengale said. Will they adjust on Cespedes? Gordon 32 this season, Cespedes 30. I don't blame the Sox one bit and am glad they didn't go four years on Gordon. I do think the Sox are willing to go more than three years for Cespedes though. Guess we'll find out soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Another reason I doubt the get Cespedes is that if they don't want to go too many years, the AAV would have to be higher. Given their payroll for 2016, it would be hard to get creative with a lower amount for 2016 if it's only a 3 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I doubt they're only going 3 years for Cespedes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Hey maybe we can give Garcia a boat paddle next year instead of a bat. That would help. This is seriously stupid. The White Sox are just waisting those free agents time if they are sticking to that 3 years nonsence. More importantly they;re waisting our time. Unless all year teams only hit the ball in the infield. Edited January 6, 2016 by Baron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Would love just one juicy tidbit linking the Sox and Cespedes today, give me and the rest of us hope. Either that or I want Hahn to come out and say the market has now priced us out and we will look at other affordable options through trades or FA outside of the big two. I feel like the past two weeks have been torture with the ups and downs and roller coaster ride that has been the big three rumor train. I just want a conclusion and soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Seeing lots of "now that Gordon signed, we're gonna hear White Sox/Cespedes rumors today" type posts... while I hope that's true, we can never be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 10:02 AM) Would love just one juicy tidbit linking the Sox and Cespedes today, give me and the rest of us hope. Either that or I want Hahn to come out and say the market has now priced us out and we will look at other affordable options through trades or FA outside of the big two. I feel like the past two weeks have been torture with the ups and downs and roller coaster ride that has been the big three rumor train. I just want a conclusion and soon. If the 3 year thing was reality we wouldn't even be in the running. We need to pony up with at least 4 years, possibly a 5th, with an average of at least $20 million a year to sit at the table at this point imo. Nationals, Angels, Orioles, possibly the Tigers are all legit threats to land either Cespedes or Upton. ANd don't count out STL, they have cash to burn and need to replace Heyward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Save your freak out if we only offer 3 to Cespedes and Upton. Until then relax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 09:50 AM) @Ken_Rosenthal Sources: #WhiteSox would not go 4 years on Gordon, as @BNightengale said. Will they adjust on Cespedes? Gordon 32 this season, Cespedes 30. So we weren't posturing. If we offer Cespedes 3 years then he won't accept. The FO has to know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I expect a Cespedes signing in the next 48 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 05:08 PM) I expect a Cespedes signing in the next 48 hours. Ugh, these comments again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 10:07 AM) So we weren't posturing. If we offer Cespedes 3 years then he won't accept. The FO has to know that. Smart move to not go over 3 years on Gordon due to his relatively advanced age. Cespedes and Upton are obviously different stories and so you offer more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 11:07 AM) So we weren't posturing. If we offer Cespedes 3 years then he won't accept. The FO has to know that. I understand it for Gordon. I'm ok with that. If they do it to Cespedes and lose out I'll be pissed. Cespedes is younger is why I don't buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 09:50 AM) @Ken_Rosenthal Sources: #WhiteSox would not go 4 years on Gordon, as @BNightengale said. Will they adjust on Cespedes? Gordon 32 this season, Cespedes 30. I really think this was the sticking point for sox on gordon. Not wanting to go more then 3 years on him. Again he's going to be 32. For Cespedes I don't believe that is the only amount of years they will go on him. He's younger. Remember that before the whole 3 year thing it was 4 or maybe 5 year deal which would represent better for Cespedes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 10:09 AM) Smart move to not go over 3 years on Gordon due to his relatively advanced age. Cespedes and Upton are obviously different stories and so you offer more years. I agree with you, but the original report was that we were only offering 3 years to both Gordon and Cespedes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 10:10 AM) I agree with you, but the original report was that we were only offering 3 years to both Gordon and Cespedes. Right; hopefully that was just blustering on Cespedes because if not we obviously have zero chance of signing him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 For 3 years you could probably get Denard Span to come here and play bad defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) This guy below isnt a source but he is along my way of thinking. I feel like they are pushing the Royals to spend...now they'll push someone else to spend........and then when the big names are off the board, they'll have a three year deal with a Dex Fowler or Gerardo Parra or something, which will leave enough money to bring back Alexei and be holeless. I may be crazy but I think that's the plan. To have a nice deal on a RF and maybe an Ian Desmond instead of Alexei--- it might actually be more total value than just Cespedes, who has only had one outstanding year ever James Fegan @JRFegan 4m4 minutes ago The crowded OF market could allow the Sox to get someone good on three years or less, just not Cespedes nor Upton. Edited January 6, 2016 by Jose Paniagua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 10:17 AM) This guy below isnt a source but he is along my way of thinking. I feel like they are pushing the Royals to spend...now they'll push someone else to spend........and then when the big names are off the board, they'll have a three year deal with a Dex Fowler or Gerardo Parra or something, which will leave enough money to bring back Alexei and be holeless. I may be crazy but I think that's the plan. James Fegan @JRFegan 4m4 minutes ago The crowded OF market could allow the Sox to get someone good on three years or less, just not Cespedes nor Upton. Giving up a draft pick for Dexter Fowler would be monumentally stupid IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Giving away a 1st round pick for fowler is just gross to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Write Sox @WriteSox 56m56 minutes ago Don’t know why everyone’s worried. Twitter said a few weeks ago Cespedes had already signed that 6-year $126 million deal with the Sox. shoutout NickyMitch93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (Sockin @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 10:18 AM) Giving up a draft pick for Dexter Fowler would be monumentally stupid IMO. But it's a win-now year. The draft pick could cause his average annual salary to go down too (and it's not our best pick either) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 10:20 AM) But it's a win-now year. The draft pick could cause his average annual salary to go down too (and it's not our best pick either) Dexter Fowler is not a move that puts you over the Royals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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