caulfield12 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 11:21 AM) Agreed, which is ironic because in past years, people blamed KW for going after the big names. And rightfully so, to some extent, because 2004-2005....the biggest name guys we added were really El Duque and Garcia. Subtracting bigger, more expensive names like Magglio and Carlos Lee. And then Dunn, Peavy and Rios, to name a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Passan now clarifying -- he has nothing, actually: https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/685505690752819200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 11:23 AM) That would require a significant bump up in payroll, yes? Yes tho that all depends if uncle Jerry will stretch the payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 11:13 AM) Dan McIntyre @dmcintyre1991 4m4 minutes ago Rosenthal on MLB network says Sox still likely to get big OF and Desmond and Alexei still possibilities at SS. This offseason is slow Would you rather: Sign Cespedes and then sign Desmond to a 1 year prove it again deal worth 11-13 million, then offer him a QO after this year and recoup that pick for the 17 draft. Sign Cespedes and resign Alexei to a 1 year deal 5-7 million dollar deal. Sign Cespedes and let Saladino be the bridge to Anderson. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 11:33 AM) Would you rather: Sign Cespedes and then sign Desmond to a 1 year prove it again deal worth 11-13 million, then offer him a QO after this year and recoup that pick for the 17 draft. Sign Cespedes and resign Alexei to a 1 year deal 5-7 million dollar deal. Sign Cespedes and let Saladino be the bridge to Anderson. Thoughts? I'd sign Cespedes and let Saladino play SS. I'd try to spend the $$ that would be spent on Ramirez on a RHP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 12:33 PM) Would you rather: Sign Cespedes and then sign Desmond to a 1 year prove it again deal worth 11-13 million, then offer him a QO after this year and recoup that pick for the 17 draft. Sign Cespedes and resign Alexei to a 1 year deal 5-7 million dollar deal. Sign Cespedes and let Saladino be the bridge to Anderson. Thoughts? The first one would obviously be preferable but it's highly unlikely they afford both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 If they sign Cespedes, they don't need much more than good defense at SS. Saladino should be fine. I agree that the higher priority would then be a RH starter. We are all aware of the lack of depth, in that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 12:33 PM) Would you rather: Sign Cespedes and then sign Desmond to a 1 year prove it again deal worth 11-13 million, then offer him a QO after this year and recoup that pick for the 17 draft. Sign Cespedes and resign Alexei to a 1 year deal 5-7 million dollar deal. Sign Cespedes and let Saladino be the bridge to Anderson. Thoughts? Option 4 = Sign Upton, keep Saladino, find another starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 12:44 PM) Option 4 = Sign Upton, keep Saladino, find another starter. Either way it makes it hard to see Alexei returning here. I'd rather spend the $$ on pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I like option #4. Cespedes/Saladino/SP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Dammit Davis just sign and take your money from the O's already so the rest of the other pieces can start falling into place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I know we've seen this tweet before, but reread it. It now reads as (a few days ago) agents just begging for some teams to start getting in this thing. And putting it out there in hopes of forcing that to happen. If Nightengale is being used in this way all throughout, it is something that bodes well for Chicago. Bob Nightengale @BNightengale Jan 6 The outfield market now will start moving, agents believe, starting with Yoenis Cespedes and Justin Upton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Rob Hart @RobHart1980 4h4 hours ago Thinking out loud - Sox seemed to have held firm to that three year limit and haven't been knocked out of Cespedes/Upton derby. If SOMEONE offered a 5 or 6 year deal they would have signed. As an outside observer, it looks like the Sox have a good read on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Word is the Sox might go to four years on either Cespedes or Upton. The latter is intrigued with the south side. https://mobile.twitter.com/georgeofman/stat...563284490207232 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 02:51 PM) Word is the Sox might go to four years on either Cespedes or Upton. The latter is intrigued with the south side. https://mobile.twitter.com/georgeofman/stat...563284490207232 I have a feeling that something will happen soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 But what about the children of Johnny Red Kerr: George Ofman @georgeofman 9m9 minutes ago Chicago, IL Word is the Sox might go to four years on either Cespedes or Upton. The latter is intrigued with the south side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) So Upton has gone from being uninterested in playing for the Sox to intrigued, now? Edited January 8, 2016 by Swingandalongonetoleft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Can anyone else envision Upton getting a 4 year deal with an opt out after sat year 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 02:57 PM) So Upton has gone from being uninterested in playing for the Sox to intrigued, now? When it's your best chance of getting paid, interest picks up quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 08:58 PM) Can anyone else envision Upton getting a 4 year deal with an opt out after sat year 2? Absolutely, makes a lot of sense for everyone involved. Sox wouldn't want to give up a draft pick for a 1-year rental, and Upton would be a FA before the huge 2018 class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 03:04 PM) I think Ofman might have been fed something to pressure Cespedes. Although Uptons market is very limited. Between Upton and Cespedes, which guy do you think is more likely to sign with the Sox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 02:51 PM) Word is the Sox might go to four years on either Cespedes or Upton. The latter is intrigued with the south side. https://mobile.twitter.com/georgeofman/stat...563284490207232 Really! The sox have held to the 3 year deal but as upton becomes interested it might go 4? It's called negotiations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 09:05 PM) Between Upton and Cespedes, which guy do you think is more likely to sign with the Sox? Not rabbit and have no sources, but Cespedes is the easy pick here. Likely to get more money and has Abreu here. Upton has no ties at all to Chicago and draft pick attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 09:05 PM) Really! The sox have held to the 3 year deal but as upton becomes interested it might go 4? It's called negotiations. The best part about the report, if true, is that they're willing to go 4 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 03:05 PM) Between Upton and Cespedes, which guy do you think is more likely to sign with the Sox? His guess is as good as ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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