BlackSox13 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 QUOTE (Saufley @ Jan 10, 2016 -> 12:07 PM) I'm with you on this one BlackSox13. Right on. I will admit that advanced stats say Desmond is a small upgrade over Alexei but the only SS that had more errors than Desmond (27) was Semien (35). Desmond has positive range whereas Alexei is negative but Desmond is negative in throwing whereas Alexei is positive. Meh, I'll roll the dice with Saladino. For anyone interested : http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=...=&players=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 FWIW SOURCE: @Yankees and @RedSox both meet with #YoenisCespedes over the weekend! #Cespedes "...no problem" taking a 1 year deal #Powerball @ https://mobile.twitter.com/LErikRenne/statu...302426756939776 Another random Twitter tool I assume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jan 10, 2016 -> 05:05 PM) FWIW SOURCE: @Yankees and @RedSox both meet with #YoenisCespedes over the weekend! #Cespedes "...no problem" taking a 1 year deal #Powerball @ https://mobile.twitter.com/LErikRenne/statu...302426756939776 Another random Twitter tool I assume. Since the Red Sox sent Cespedes packing pretty quickly and he had some personal problems w a coach in his brief stint, I would doubt there is interest w either side. Sounds like an internet rumor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jan 10, 2016 -> 10:05 PM) FWIW SOURCE: @Yankees and @RedSox both meet with #YoenisCespedes over the weekend! #Cespedes "...no problem" taking a 1 year deal #Powerball @ https://mobile.twitter.com/LErikRenne/statu...302426756939776 Another random Twitter tool I assume. Wouldn't shock me at all. I'm questioning just how involved the Sox have been with Cespedes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Sounds like the Tigers are taking a similar stance like the Sox. Interesting in that no team, as of yet, is willing to commit to a long term deal for Cespedes. https://detroitjockcity.com/2016/01/10/detr...ding-to-report/ "One major league source indicated that Cespedes is a hot topic within the Tigers organization and the reaction is split." "One possibility that would keep all of the offseason reports consistent would be if the Tigers are considering Cespedes, but only if his value slips to the point of accepting a short-term deal. They’re not going to get themselves into a bidding war, but he would fill a need at the right price." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jan 10, 2016 -> 04:17 PM) Since the Red Sox sent Cespedes packing pretty quickly and he had some personal problems w a coach in his brief stint, I would doubt there is interest w either side. Sounds like an internet rumor Exactly. Besides it all tweets are true, the Sox have already agreed to a 6 year contract with him, but then didn't but only have a 5 year offer, yet will not offer more than 3 years. The Yankees are trying to get below the luxury tax. A one year deal would blow that away. I really don't understand why so many people throw so much BS on the Twitter. Edited January 10, 2016 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 10, 2016 -> 04:30 PM) Exactly. Besides it all tweets are true, the Sox have already agreed to a 6 year contract with him, but then didn't but only have a 5 year offer, yet will not offer more than 3 years. The Yankees are trying to get below the luxury tax. A one year deal would blow that away. I really don't understand why so many people throw so much BS on the Twitter. Page views, fame and fortune for those select few who actually turn out to be right or deliver inside knowledge at least 33% of the time...and the massive desire for minute by minute updated information in any breaking news story, whether sports or a terrorist bombing or mass shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Lmfao! This thread was started on December 13th, is just shy of being a month old and is over 150 pages long, yet we still have no clue what's going with Cespedes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 On the plus side, there's finally some type of movement or information out there on Upton...and you'd have to think that the Orioles would set a deadline on Chris Davis at some point so they don't miss out on both him AND the outfield market simultaneously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 10, 2016 -> 09:25 PM) On the plus side, there's finally some type of movement or information out there on Upton...and you'd have to think that the Orioles would set a deadline on Chris Davis at some point so they don't miss out on both him AND the outfield market simultaneously. What movement has there been on the Uptpn front? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 10, 2016 -> 09:55 PM) What movement has there been on the Uptpn front? He signed with the Springfield Isotopes tonight 6/175 according to my Twitter source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 10, 2016 -> 09:55 PM) What movement has there been on the Uptpn front? His agent (Reynolds) making comments to the media as well as a line forming of teams willing to give him one year deals so he can exploit an opportunity to put up huge offensive numbers and make more FA money next year...assuming Upton can't get the long-term deal he wants. Edited January 11, 2016 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 http://www.si.com/mlb/2016/01/05/whats-he-...des-free-agency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 09:08 AM) http://www.si.com/mlb/2016/01/05/whats-he-...des-free-agency At this point there's no way Cespedes gets close to the $150 million that the article suggests teams should offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Well, that's discouraging. Best case scenario is probably $75-84 million for three years, that's $27.5 million per season splitting the difference. What's the most they've ever paid a player for one season? Pretty sure $16-17 million in 2012 for Peavy or one of Dunn's years...the most Dunn made was $15 million his last two seasons. Ordonez made $14 million in 2004, that would be the highest adjusted for inflation. Buehrle made $14 million for four seasons. Konerko at $13.5 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 After all of this time waiting, all of the talk and speculation, I still think the wisest move for the front office, in which he would be interested, is a 6 year deal, front loaded, with an opt out privilege for him after 2 or 3 years. How many of you share that view? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 09:45 AM) Well, that's discouraging. Best case scenario is probably $75-84 million for three years, that's $27.5 million per season splitting the difference. What's the most they've ever paid a player for one season? Pretty sure $16-17 million in 2012 for Peavy or one of Dunn's years...the most Dunn made was $15 million his last two seasons. Ordonez made $14 million in 2004, that would be the highest adjusted for inflation. Buehrle made $14 million for four seasons. Konerko at $13.5 million. What's discouraging about it? There's no new information there, just one writer projecting Cespedes' future performance and throwing out a suggested number. It says nothing about teams actually offering that number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 39m39 minutes ago Tigers have discussed yoenis, j-up, davis, fowler, desmond. Depends on $. may just go for platooner for LF tho (ie rebury) Some fear mongering for all of you who are terrified of the Tigers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 09:50 AM) Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 39m39 minutes ago Tigers have discussed yoenis, j-up, davis, fowler, desmond. Depends on $. may just go for platooner for LF tho (ie rebury) Some fear mongering for all of you who are terrified of the Tigers. Tyler Collins, Maybin and Gose for 2/3rds of an outfield won't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 09:45 AM) Well, that's discouraging. Best case scenario is probably $75-84 million for three years, that's $27.5 million per season splitting the difference. What's the most they've ever paid a player for one season? Pretty sure $16-17 million in 2012 for Peavy or one of Dunn's years...the most Dunn made was $15 million his last two seasons. Ordonez made $14 million in 2004, that would be the highest adjusted for inflation. Buehrle made $14 million for four seasons. Konerko at $13.5 million. John Danks is at $15.75 for 15 and 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I'll go ahead & say it, I'd be very surprised to see the Sox get Cespedes or Upton. I think they'll turn their attention to the 2/3 tier guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 10:00 AM) Tyler Collins, Maybin and Gose for 2/3rds of an outfield won't work. Maybin plays CF and J.D Martinez plays RF. Gose and Collins could always platoon in LF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 10:02 AM) I'll go ahead & say it, I'd be very surprised to see the Sox get Cespedes or Upton. I think they'll turn their attention to the 2/3 tier guys. That would be a major failure on their part. Major, major failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (Dunt @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 05:25 PM) That would be a major failure on their part. Major, major failure. What if Cespedes ends up getting 5/125 from some team? For me, I think he will be a massive flop with that type of contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (Lillian @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 09:49 AM) After all of this time waiting, all of the talk and speculation, I still think the wisest move for the front office, in which he would be interested, is a 6 year deal, front loaded, with an opt out privilege for him after 2 or 3 years. How many of you share that view? You literally keep saying this every other day but continue to ignore the fact that we're up against a budget this year. It's incredibly unlikely that we'll be able to front-load a deal for either of these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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