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Sox Acquire All-Star 3B Todd Frazier from Reds in 3 team deal


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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 03:14 PM)
Definitely a bigger deal to acquire Jose Fernandez imo. I wouldn't even know where to begin where we land Puig, Dodgers get Fernandez, and Miami gets prospects.

 

Dodgers get:

SP Jose Fernandez

 

White Sox get:

RF Yaseil Puig

 

Marlins get:

SP Julio Urias

SP Jose De Leon

OF Trayce Thompson

SP Tyler Danish

OF Avisail Garcia

 

I'm just spit balling here.

So you are saying the White Sox get Puig for Danish and Garcia. That would be highway robbery. Only way the Sox are getting Puig is if they give up a front line starter or give up at least one of Fullmer/Anderson + others as part of a 3 way deal which nets the Dodgers their front line starter.

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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 05:16 PM)
So you are saying the White Sox get Puig for Danish and Garcia. That would be highway robbery. Only way the Sox are getting Puig is if they give up a front line starter or give up at least one of Fullmer/Anderson + others as part of a 3 way deal which nets the Dodgers their front line starter.

 

I said I was just spit balling lol. With his recent actions, injury history, risk in the clubhouse, that's what I would offer and if they don't like it then too bad. I know that probably wouldn't get him, but just throwing some ideas out.

 

P.S. I know you don't mean it, but it's been bothering me. It's Fulmer, not Fullmer.

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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 06:20 PM)
Really don't think Puig will end up costing a top of the line prospect anymore.

I don't see us getting him. Would've thought if we were, he would've been in this deal. Maybe I'm wrong but I think I heard someone say if he's dealt it's closer to ST.

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QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 03:53 PM)
He has talked repeatedly about being responsible to the rest of the board members. I'm not as confident as Dick Allen is that this is true. He has a history of criticizing JR and his budget statments and esponsibilities. I respect his opinion but he is far from impartial when it comes to opinions on JR.

The only time I really ever gave JR hell about payroll was 2009 when he held season ticket holder playoff money hostage and lowered payroll, and KW cried poor. After that he traded for Peavy and claimed Rios.

 

Here is a Tribune story from a couple of years ago showing total control, even being able to sell the team without any other shareholders consent.

 

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-07...chael-reinsdorf

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This is just comical:

 

JONATHAN GRAFF ‏@JLGPROD 2h2 hours ago

Did the #Whitesox give up too much young talent for Todd Frazier? #WhiteSoxTalk -best answers at 6pm on @CSNChicago

 

I literally haven't heard one negative comment in the Chicago media about Theo's moves so far. Amazing how Trayce Thompson went from a mid-level prospect to the next sure thing. Not only that, I'm sure 90% of the Chicago media didn't even watch a Sox game in the last two months.

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It's understandable. The white sox media didn't pay attention at all to the white sox after july save for trayce thompson.

 

I was listening to inside the club house, and they were talking about how terrible eaton was, but how the sox have a future in trayce and saladino. They just don't care, and people knew trayce.

 

Also, I hope Trayce has a great career and we see him on the southside again eventually.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 06:33 PM)
This is just comical:

 

JONATHAN GRAFF ‏@JLGPROD 2h2 hours ago

Did the #Whitesox give up too much young talent for Todd Frazier? #WhiteSoxTalk -best answers at 6pm on @CSNChicago

 

I literally haven't heard one negative comment in the Chicago media about Theo's moves so far. Amazing how Trayce Thompson went from a mid-level prospect to the next sure thing.

 

It's also funny that neither Micah or Thompson is that young by baseball standards.

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QUOTE (venom4789 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 03:16 PM)
This is literally a marcus siemen 2.0 situation. Everyone thinking we are trading an allstar away.

 

A good person to mention, considering Semien is the same age as Trayce Thompson and the two played together at the lower levels of the minors. Semien got to Chicago for a September callup in 2013 at age 22. It took Trayce 2 more years.

 

Semien's overall line in the minors .272/.374/.465/.839

 

Trayce Thompson's .241/.319/.429/.747

 

Semien after some call-ups hit .257/.310/.405/.715 in his first full season in MLB. He'll probably improve some on that. It's tough to make a case that Trayce would ever put up a full season even that good. Thompson is a nice platoon/defensive 4th OF. As an everyday OF, that offense drags his value way down.

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QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 11:38 PM)
Love the trade, I did like all 3 prospects we traded but none of them are can't miss guys and if anything it seems like trance/Micah will be future bench guys. I also stopped crying over losing mediocre prospects after being so upset about olivo/reed for Freddy Garcia.

 

Those guys were far superior to this group

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QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 05:33 PM)
This is just comical:

 

JONATHAN GRAFF ‏@JLGPROD 2h2 hours ago

Did the #Whitesox give up too much young talent for Todd Frazier? #WhiteSoxTalk -best answers at 6pm on @CSNChicago

 

I literally haven't heard one negative comment in the Chicago media about Theo's moves so far. Amazing how Trayce Thompson went from a mid-level prospect to the next sure thing. Not only that, I'm sure 90% of the Chicago media didn't even watch a Sox game in the last two months.

Right now I'll take Frazier for what we gave up instead of Heyward for $26 mil for his first 3 years with the Scrubs! So far RH has done just fine!

 

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QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 05:38 PM)
Love the trade, I did like all 3 prospects we traded but none of them are can't miss guys and if anything it seems like trance/Micah will be future bench guys. I also stopped crying over losing mediocre prospects after being so upset about olivo/reed for Freddy Garcia.

CHANGE. YOUR. USERNAME.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 05:42 PM)
Probably the wrong thread, but Angels might be out of the outfield sweepstakes now:

 

Jeff Fletcher ‏@JeffFletcherOCR 8m8 minutes ago

The Angels have signed Daniel Nava to a one year deal. Could be the LF platoon with Gentry.

 

I just saw this. Made a thread about it lol.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 05:35 PM)
There were heavy rumors a few years ago that they didn't care for each other

 

No new oufielder and Saladino at SS means the Frazier deal is essentially for naught...

 

Hopefully Abreu has some sway with Cespedes.

 

 

Bringing any NL player to the Sox brings some level of trepidation, two (that includes Puig, Ethier and CarGo) just seems like asking for trouble. Gordon and Cespedes at least have both proven they can excel in our division and are more comfortable fits compared to the higher price tag and streakiness of Upton.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 05:43 PM)
No new oufielder and Saladino at SS means the Frazier deal is essentially for naught...

 

Hopefully Abreu has some sway with Cespedes.

 

 

Bringing any NL player to the Sox brings some level of trepidation, two (that includes Puig, Ethier and CarGo) just seems like asking for trouble. Gordon and Cespedes al least have both proven they can excel in our division and are more comfortable fits compared to the higher price tag and streakiness of Upton.

 

I agree. That's why signing Upton, Cespedes, and Gordon is a MUST.

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