venom4789 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 This is literally a marcus siemen 2.0 situation. Everyone thinking we are trading an allstar away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Would have been all about Puig a few months back but with this domestic violence stuff hanging over his head, no thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 03:14 PM) Definitely a bigger deal to acquire Jose Fernandez imo. I wouldn't even know where to begin where we land Puig, Dodgers get Fernandez, and Miami gets prospects. Dodgers get: SP Jose Fernandez White Sox get: RF Yaseil Puig Marlins get: SP Julio Urias SP Jose De Leon OF Trayce Thompson SP Tyler Danish OF Avisail Garcia I'm just spit balling here. So you are saying the White Sox get Puig for Danish and Garcia. That would be highway robbery. Only way the Sox are getting Puig is if they give up a front line starter or give up at least one of Fullmer/Anderson + others as part of a 3 way deal which nets the Dodgers their front line starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Really don't think Puig will end up costing a top of the line prospect anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 05:16 PM) So you are saying the White Sox get Puig for Danish and Garcia. That would be highway robbery. Only way the Sox are getting Puig is if they give up a front line starter or give up at least one of Fullmer/Anderson + others as part of a 3 way deal which nets the Dodgers their front line starter. I said I was just spit balling lol. With his recent actions, injury history, risk in the clubhouse, that's what I would offer and if they don't like it then too bad. I know that probably wouldn't get him, but just throwing some ideas out. P.S. I know you don't mean it, but it's been bothering me. It's Fulmer, not Fullmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 06:08 PM) It's for Jose Fernandez Agreed. They're not going to be out done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 06:20 PM) Really don't think Puig will end up costing a top of the line prospect anymore. I don't see us getting him. Would've thought if we were, he would've been in this deal. Maybe I'm wrong but I think I heard someone say if he's dealt it's closer to ST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 03:53 PM) He has talked repeatedly about being responsible to the rest of the board members. I'm not as confident as Dick Allen is that this is true. He has a history of criticizing JR and his budget statments and esponsibilities. I respect his opinion but he is far from impartial when it comes to opinions on JR. The only time I really ever gave JR hell about payroll was 2009 when he held season ticket holder playoff money hostage and lowered payroll, and KW cried poor. After that he traded for Peavy and claimed Rios. Here is a Tribune story from a couple of years ago showing total control, even being able to sell the team without any other shareholders consent. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-07...chael-reinsdorf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) This is just comical: JONATHAN GRAFF @JLGPROD 2h2 hours ago Did the #Whitesox give up too much young talent for Todd Frazier? #WhiteSoxTalk -best answers at 6pm on @CSNChicago I literally haven't heard one negative comment in the Chicago media about Theo's moves so far. Amazing how Trayce Thompson went from a mid-level prospect to the next sure thing. Not only that, I'm sure 90% of the Chicago media didn't even watch a Sox game in the last two months. Edited December 16, 2015 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 With strong Cuban leadership from Abreu perhaps Puig would be a decent fit. I dunno though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 11:33 PM) With strong Cuban leadership from Abreu perhaps Puig would be a decent fit. I dunno though. There were heavy rumors a few years ago that they didn't care for each other Edited December 16, 2015 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 It's understandable. The white sox media didn't pay attention at all to the white sox after july save for trayce thompson. I was listening to inside the club house, and they were talking about how terrible eaton was, but how the sox have a future in trayce and saladino. They just don't care, and people knew trayce. Also, I hope Trayce has a great career and we see him on the southside again eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 06:33 PM) This is just comical: JONATHAN GRAFF @JLGPROD 2h2 hours ago Did the #Whitesox give up too much young talent for Todd Frazier? #WhiteSoxTalk -best answers at 6pm on @CSNChicago I literally haven't heard one negative comment in the Chicago media about Theo's moves so far. Amazing how Trayce Thompson went from a mid-level prospect to the next sure thing. It's also funny that neither Micah or Thompson is that young by baseball standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 QUOTE (venom4789 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 03:16 PM) This is literally a marcus siemen 2.0 situation. Everyone thinking we are trading an allstar away. A good person to mention, considering Semien is the same age as Trayce Thompson and the two played together at the lower levels of the minors. Semien got to Chicago for a September callup in 2013 at age 22. It took Trayce 2 more years. Semien's overall line in the minors .272/.374/.465/.839 Trayce Thompson's .241/.319/.429/.747 Semien after some call-ups hit .257/.310/.405/.715 in his first full season in MLB. He'll probably improve some on that. It's tough to make a case that Trayce would ever put up a full season even that good. Thompson is a nice platoon/defensive 4th OF. As an everyday OF, that offense drags his value way down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Love the trade, I did like all 3 prospects we traded but none of them are can't miss guys and if anything it seems like trance/Micah will be future bench guys. I also stopped crying over losing mediocre prospects after being so upset about olivo/reed for Freddy Garcia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 11:38 PM) Love the trade, I did like all 3 prospects we traded but none of them are can't miss guys and if anything it seems like trance/Micah will be future bench guys. I also stopped crying over losing mediocre prospects after being so upset about olivo/reed for Freddy Garcia. Those guys were far superior to this group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 05:33 PM) This is just comical: JONATHAN GRAFF @JLGPROD 2h2 hours ago Did the #Whitesox give up too much young talent for Todd Frazier? #WhiteSoxTalk -best answers at 6pm on @CSNChicago I literally haven't heard one negative comment in the Chicago media about Theo's moves so far. Amazing how Trayce Thompson went from a mid-level prospect to the next sure thing. Not only that, I'm sure 90% of the Chicago media didn't even watch a Sox game in the last two months. Right now I'll take Frazier for what we gave up instead of Heyward for $26 mil for his first 3 years with the Scrubs! So far RH has done just fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 05:38 PM) Love the trade, I did like all 3 prospects we traded but none of them are can't miss guys and if anything it seems like trance/Micah will be future bench guys. I also stopped crying over losing mediocre prospects after being so upset about olivo/reed for Freddy Garcia. CHANGE. YOUR. USERNAME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Probably the wrong thread, but Angels might be out of the outfield sweepstakes now: Jeff Fletcher @JeffFletcherOCR 8m8 minutes ago The Angels have signed Daniel Nava to a one year deal. Could be the LF platoon with Gentry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I'd take Heyward but to each his own, still like deal. I hated the thought of getting Frazier but at this price...can't complain. I still think it's 2017 for us for playoffs though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 05:42 PM) Probably the wrong thread, but Angels might be out of the outfield sweepstakes now: Jeff Fletcher @JeffFletcherOCR 8m8 minutes ago The Angels have signed Daniel Nava to a one year deal. Could be the LF platoon with Gentry. I just saw this. Made a thread about it lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 05:35 PM) There were heavy rumors a few years ago that they didn't care for each other No new oufielder and Saladino at SS means the Frazier deal is essentially for naught... Hopefully Abreu has some sway with Cespedes. Bringing any NL player to the Sox brings some level of trepidation, two (that includes Puig, Ethier and CarGo) just seems like asking for trouble. Gordon and Cespedes at least have both proven they can excel in our division and are more comfortable fits compared to the higher price tag and streakiness of Upton. Edited December 16, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 05:43 PM) No new oufielder and Saladino at SS means the Frazier deal is essentially for naught... Hopefully Abreu has some sway with Cespedes. Bringing any NL player to the Sox brings some level of trepidation, two (that includes Puig, Ethier and CarGo) just seems like asking for trouble. Gordon and Cespedes al least have both proven they can excel in our division and are more comfortable fits compared to the higher price tag and streakiness of Upton. I agree. That's why signing Upton, Cespedes, and Gordon is a MUST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 05:43 PM) I just saw this. Made a thread about it lol. Too many misses with Trout and Pujols on the roster means that Moreno has to do something more substantive because they're a middle of the road, borderline contender as currently constructed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 05:45 PM) I agree. That's why signing Upton, Cespedes, and Gordon is a MUST. All three may be excessive, but I unno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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