Marky Mark Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 If Saladino is our starting SS in '16 and gets 500+ PAs, what is your realistic expectation of his offense? Although we could see him completely flop or hit way better than this, I'm thinking we could realistically see ..... 8-10 HR 45-55 RBIs 12-15 SBs .235-.245 AVE .300 OBP With his strong defense and minimum salary, I'd definitely take it. Especially if we use $ to bring in one more high caliber player. What do you realistically expect to see from Saladino offensively if he gets 500+ PAs next year? And would you be happy if your projection is true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 My somewhat pessimistic guess is .230/9/40/.265 with 15 stolen bases. With his projected defense, I'd be fine with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 .315/14/75/.350 with 20 stolen bases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 .235/.295/.340 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 He should work on drawing walks and becoming a slap hitter like Iglesias. If they got that type of offensive production with his defense, that would make everyone ecstatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 20, 2015 -> 04:26 PM) .315/14/75/.350 with 20 stolen bases. hahahahhahahhahha pass the blunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Dec 20, 2015 -> 04:37 PM) hahahahhahahhahha pass the blunt I'm just trying to be optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 20, 2015 -> 04:38 PM) I'm just trying to be optimistic. A little too overly optimistic. I think you're gonna be disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I could actually see him hitting 15-18 HRs. He showed pretty good pop. Perhaps closer to 12-15 that the OP stated, but I could see him hitting .245/.300 with that kind of pop and defense at SS and you got yourself a pretty good player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 20, 2015 -> 04:41 PM) A little too overly optimistic. I think you're gonna be disappointed. I'm not expecting him to put up those numbers I listed but I'd be ecstatic if he did. We'll see I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) This is kind of what I've been thinking for awhile. He can pretty much suck and he'll be damn near equal to Alexei Ramirez. That $9M savings is so worth it. That being said I'm gonna throw out an optimistic .290/.345/.460 14 HR, 29 2B, 5 3B, 20SB and badass defense Edited December 20, 2015 by Jerksticks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 .245/.290/.340 8 HR 22 SB, 35 RBIs. I think he'll hold his own defensively as a SS but fWAR will probably be in the .5-1 range. He's a bench player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Or Sanchez ends up as the SS. He also played SS in the minors and may be the better hitter as well as defender at SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Being optimistic.....240/.300/.340 with 10 hrs and 15 steals. If he can do that and play near gold glove level D he will be a huge success in my book. And Sanchez only started 180 out of about 500 minor league games at SS. I don't think he's going to be our everyday SS. His arm doesn't pass the eye test right from the start for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 if he plays full time, avg - 220 hrs - 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 20, 2015 -> 05:32 PM) Being optimistic.....240/.300/.340 with 10 hrs and 15 steals. If he can do that and play near gold glove level D he will be a huge success in my book. And Sanchez only started 180 out of about 500 minor league games at SS. I don't think he's going to be our everyday SS. His arm doesn't pass the eye test right from the start for me. This is what I'm expecting. If everyone else hits, I will take this. More is a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) OK, I'll play your little game: Here was Alexei's line from last season: 33 doubles 0 triples 10 HR 62 RBI 17 SB 7 CX 31 BB 68 SO .249 AVG .285 OBP .357 SLG .642 OPS I'd expect Tyler to do about the same with a few triples, more walks and more strike outs. I'd guess something like: .240 AVG .295 OBP .380 SLG If that transpires, the choice to play the younger guy, and save the money, will have been a wise decision Edited December 21, 2015 by Lillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 .240 BA, .290 OBP, 28 2B, 7 3B, 11HR, 20SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 .640 OPS sounds exactly right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Streamer has him at .243/.301/.360 I'd take that in a heartbeat if he can play acceptable defense at SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 QUOTE (TomPickle @ Dec 20, 2015 -> 08:09 PM) Streamer has him at .243/.301/.360 I'd take that in a heartbeat if he can play acceptable defense at SS I think his defense at SS will be far more than acceptable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 .235 BA, .295 OBP, 25 2B, 9 3B, 11HR, 18SB. And rock solid glovework. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 20, 2015 -> 08:15 PM) I think his defense at SS will be far more than acceptable What is that based on? Defensive metrics (in a very small sample) did not like him at all at SS last year and all the scouting reports I've seen have him pegged as more of a 2B that can play SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 QUOTE (TomPickle @ Dec 20, 2015 -> 08:20 PM) What is that based on? Defensive metrics (in a very small sample) did not like him at all at SS last year and all the scouting reports I've seen have him pegged as more of a 2B that can play SS. He played just 63 innings at SS last year, so I wouldn't put much merit into any statistics regarding his defense there. Too small of a sample size. He was a stellar defensive 3B for us (according to all metrics), and he has played 426 games at SS as opposed to 69 at 2B in the minors, so I certainly wouldn't call him a second baseman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I don't take any real stock in the defensive numbers from last year. I also don't take much stock in games played at a position in the minor leagues. You keep a guy at SS until he proves he can't play the position. Scouting reports I have read mostly say that he projects as more of a 2B, but also that his defense has continually improved while in the minors. I have never seen anything about him being a gold glove caliber defensive player like some other people have mentioned in here, but I'm willing to bet the Sox can get by with him at SS until Anderson is ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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