caulfield12 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 It's one of those, have to take the organization's word for it things. You're right, those evaluations are much more difficult to make at the minor league level due to field conditions and even more variance with scoring decisions and the tracking methods for defensive ratings systems are just evolving for the minors at this point. It is a bit curious that Saladino didn't receive MORE playing time the final two months of 2015 at that position so we would have a much better idea going into 2016. That was a missed opportunity that probably has more to do with "respect for Alexei and his future free agency" than what was best for the team moving forward. I guess we can give the benefit of the doubt, but they SHOULD have known what they were planning to do with Ramirez by the time of the trade deadline. They could have at least split time or maybe even played Alexei in the OF or at 2B or even 3B to demonstrate his positional versatility. Playing him at 2B wouldn't have mattered, as they clearly weren't 100% confident in Carlos Sanchez moving forward as a full-time player in an "all-in" year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 20, 2015 -> 04:26 PM) .315/14/75/.350 with 20 stolen bases. So just a little short of the numbers Dustin Pedroia put up in his 2008 MVP season huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I think he will hover around a 630 OPS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 .270 8-10 homers/ 50 -55 RBI's. 15/20 steals. Heads up baseball, does the little things. Thats one thing about lexi that was getting old was his bonehead baseball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 .245 9 HRs 47 RBIs 18 SBs While playing a good defensive SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glangon Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 .255 with 5 homers, 40 RBI's and 25 stolen bases. His defense will be solid though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 If he exceeds everyone's expectations offensively and plays great defense, does Tim Anderson need to find a new position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 .225, 4HR, 172B, 35RBI. I think he plays maybe 100-120 games at SS. Sanchez filling 40-60, and Sanchez filling in 20-40 at 2B, so essentially playing half the games somewhere. Sanchez line: .270, 4HR, 172B, 35rbi basically what I'm saying is Sanchez is better, will win some time at SS, but ultimately wont be as strong as a defender. I think he'll win week stretches when his bat is hot where he starts 6 of 7 games though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 08:42 AM) .225, 4HR, 172B, 35RBI. I think he plays maybe 100-120 games at SS. Sanchez filling 40-60, and Sanchez filling in 20-40 at 2B, so essentially playing half the games somewhere. Sanchez line: .270, 4HR, 172B, 35rbi basically what I'm saying is Sanchez is better, will win some time at SS, but ultimately wont be as strong as a defender. I think he'll win week stretches when his bat is hot where he starts 6 of 7 games though. The only thing Sanchez does better than Saladino as a hitter in make more contact. Tyler will draw significantly more walks, has more power, and is a far better base-stealer. If each were given a full season of at-bats, I fully expect Saladino to put up the superior offensive season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 09:28 AM) The only thing Sanchez does better than Saladino as a hitter in make more contact. Tyler will draw significantly more walks, has more power, and is a far better base-stealer. If each were given a full season of at-bats, I fully expect Saladino to put up the superior offensive season. I think minor league stats over the past 3-4 years would go against that theory. Also there's a reason Saladino is 27 and just sniffing the majors. Sanchez is the higher talent everywhere except defensively, and that isn't calling him a slouch, hes actually quite good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Saladino will be 26 this year and was set back by Tommy John surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 .230/.285/.350 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 .278 13 HR 51 RBI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 75 - 80 wRC+ w/ +8 Defensive runs saved = ~1.0 - 1.5 WAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 If Saladino gave us .250 with 10-12 homers, 20 stolen bases, and solid defense next season, I know that I'd be more than happy. Those numbers would essentially be what Alexei put up last year, but Saladino would be doing it for the minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 22, 2015 -> 10:51 AM) If Saladino gave us .250 with 10-12 homers, 20 stolen bases, and solid defense next season, I know that I'd be more than happy. Those numbers would essentially be what Alexei put up last year, but Saladino would be doing it for the minimum. That would be a steady, rather unspectacular but very welcome line if Saladino can post those #'s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 the numbers predicted here would be fine. They really make the case not to sign one of these aging guys like Alexei or give up anything of value for Segura. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyGillis Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 He hit .233 with whimpy power in AA, but .282 with adequate power in AAA. Maybe facing pitchers with better control made him a better hitter so maybe he won't be horrendous for the Sox?? I'm grasping at straws here, you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Blah .blah blah blah blah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 26, 2015 -> 12:26 PM) Blah .blah blah blah blah Why do you keep posting stuff like this? Is there something you want to tell us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 26, 2015 -> 10:30 AM) Why do you keep posting stuff like this? Is there something you want to tell us? Blah, blah, blah... Blah blah. Poop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Lerxst, is that you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I remember seeing Saladino play 3-5 games at SS and making 2 or 3 incredible plays, displaying an above average arm for SS and I remember him being an absolute monster at 3b. I really think he will translate to a +7-10 DRS type guy at SS. Offensively... .230/.280/.350, but over a full year he will probably crack 10 homers and swipe 20+ bags; however, paired with his strong defense and a good line-up around him, he is definitely a viable starting SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I think Tyler is going to be borderline "acceptable" as a whole at SS. He's going to play plus defense, play with a higher motor & I expect to see subtle improvements. It's worth keeping in mind that he is expected to be a 1-2 year stop gap, with a large amount of optimism that Tim Anderson will kill it in AAA this year & be a mid-season call up. With that being said, here are my projections: .230 AVG/ 10 HR/ 45 RBI/ 15 SB/ .280 OBP w/ plus defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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