SoCalSox Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 10:47 AM) If they sign one of these OF's, Shuck doesn't really have a spot. They need a RH hitting OF that can push Melky to DH vs LHP. What happens when Eaton needs a break in CF if Shuck isn't there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 12:50 PM) What happens when Eaton needs a break in CF if Shuck isn't there? Avi Garcia, your time is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 as things stand now, royals told chances are nil to keep gordon. other OFs (and SP) theyre weighing https://t.co/CtYsVNCwEy https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/status/679741429804068864 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 01:14 PM) as things stand now, royals told chances are nil to keep gordon. other OFs (and SP) theyre weighing https://t.co/CtYsVNCwEy https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/status/679741429804068864 So is this a shoe in for the Sox now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 From that Heyman link: The Royals are said to have made a four-year offer to Gordon, which Jim Bowden of ESPN pegged at "$12 million to $13 million" per year. Gordon is believed to be seeking closer to $20 million a year and has drawn reported interested from the Orioles, Cardinals, Angels and Giants, among others. Gordon, a home-grown Royal and Nebraska native, took a hometown discount in signing a four-year deal with the Royals four years ago but doesn't appear as interested in such a deal this time. Kansas City actually has two free agent outfielders (Gordon and Rios), but it could fill one of the spots with perennial fourth outfielder Jarrod Dyson and other in-house options potentially. Kansas City is also looking closely at several free-agent starting pitching options. Wei-Yin Chen appears to top their list, but they aren't prepared to go to six years or pay $100 million on a five-year deal, as he's been reported to be seeking by Roch Kubatko of MASN in Baltimore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Sox not mentioned at all. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Keeping an eye on this guy's twitter... https://twitter.com/royalsclubhouse Heyman is good at what he does, but who the hell knows anymore? This free agent season has been annoying as hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Ha, this is hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Not looking good for the Royals. Spent years upon years getting to this point, only to see their reign on top quickly dissolve. Losing Gordon is the first domino and should really hurt. By 2018 they will have most likely lost a sizable chunk of their core. Caulfield must be in full-on panic mode right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 01:27 PM) Keeping an eye on this guy's twitter... https://twitter.com/royalsclubhouse Heyman is good at what he does, but who the hell knows anymore? This free agent season has been annoying as hell. He problem that guy has is if he doesn't sign with the Royals or White Sox, his credibility is ruined. He has been on the he is coming back to KC wagon , but was patting himself on the back when Rosenthal mentioned the White Sox, saying don't listen to the national guys. Edited December 23, 2015 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 01:33 PM) Not looking good for the Royals. Spent years upon years getting to this point, only to see their reign on top quickly dissolve. Losing Gordon is the first domino and should really hurt. By 2018 they will have most likely lost a sizable chunk of their core. Caulfield must be in full-on panic mode right now. The Royals way is being taught up and down that organization. Caulfield already let us know. They will always be light years ahead of the White Sox. They are already doing something the White Sox have never done, learned from their mistakes, they signed a free agent OF named Alex last year and it didn't quite work out. So they don't want to do that again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 01:14 PM) as things stand now, royals told chances are nil to keep gordon. other OFs (and SP) theyre weighing https://t.co/CtYsVNCwEy https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/status/679741429804068864 I find that hard to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 01:58 PM) I find that hard to believe. Unless he's takes a huge hometown discount to return to the royal, they are still in need of a starting pitcher. That's like between 25 to 30 million to try to get a starter and sign gordon. Not sure they can swing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 02:03 PM) Unless he's takes a huge hometown discount to return to the royal, they are still in need of a starting pitcher. That's like between 25 to 30 million to try to get a starter and sign gordon. Not sure they can swing that. Plus I'm not sure the motivation is there to take a hometown discount. He already did once, and now he's at an age where he could be looking at his last contract, and he already has a ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I just hope if the White Sox do sign him that they don't go over the 4 year mark. I know the report is that he is looking for $20M per, but I've read multiple things saying that the FA market moving is moving much slower because players aren't getting offers for nearly what they are commanding. I think 4 years at $16-18M per would be a very nice signing. Doubt that happens, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 That seems like games planted to the media. Who knows though. I just know his agent is very quiet and doesn't talk to the media. (Agent is Casey Close IIRC) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 03:10 PM) I just hope if the White Sox do sign him that they don't go over the 4 year mark. I know the report is that he is looking for $20M per, but I've read multiple things saying that the FA market moving is moving much slower because players aren't getting offers for nearly what they are commanding. I think 4 years at $16-18M per would be a very nice signing. Doubt that happens, though. I don't see any way he gets $20 mil per. 4 years is all I'd go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 12:21 PM) I don't see any way he gets $20 mil per. 4 years is all I'd go. My main issue with Gordon is his age. As far as skillset goes, he's exactly what the Sox need but it's hard for me to say he's worth the money he'll get. I'm hoping if they do sign him, it'll be no more than 4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 02:25 PM) My main issue with Gordon is his age. As far as skillset goes, he's exactly what the Sox need but it's hard for me to say he's worth the money he'll get. I'm hoping if they do sign him, it'll be no more than 4 years. 4 years, 78 million. Throw it out there Hahn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 02:37 PM) 4 years, 78 million. Throw it out there Hahn! That is too much for Gordon IMO. I'd rather give 120 million to Cespedes or Upton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 03:40 PM) That is too much for Gordon IMO. Unrealistic to pay Gordon the annual value of Melky, though. Gordon is far better and has been consistent for so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 02:47 PM) Unrealistic to pay Gordon the annual value of Melky, though. Gordon is far better and has been consistent for so long. Agreed. If you try to get away with splitting the difference between a Royals offer and a Sox offer, I would bet it's not enough for Gordon to leave KC. I think if the KC offer is within 2 million a year of the next best offer, he stays in KC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 02:40 PM) That is too much for Gordon IMO. I'd rather give 120 million to Cespedes or Upton. 4 for 78 would be a coup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 The funny thing is, if you sign Cespedes or Upton, when they get to be Gordon's age, at least Cespedes, the contract is going to look a lot like one people don't want to give Gordon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 01:19 PM) The funny thing is, if you sign Cespedes or Upton, when they get to be Gordon's age, at least Cespedes, the contract is going to look a lot like one people don't want to give Gordon. Upton is what 4 years younger? So, say you do a 6 year deal at $21M per. When Upton hits 32 years, he'll have 2 years left vs Gordon who would sign a similar deal at age 32 for say 4 years. The difference is the two years & that's my concern. I think he'll produce well enough for that AAV in the first few years of his deal but worries me on the last half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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