BlackSox13 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Meh, sounds more like hard-ball between KC and Gordon. Gordon wants to stay in KC but KC does not want to pay the FA market price so KC could be relying on Gordon's desire to stay in hopes he will eventually accept a "home town" discount. I really think the Sox level of interest has been over blown by the local media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 27, 2015 -> 12:18 PM) Meh, sounds more like hard-ball between KC and Gordon. Gordon wants to stay in KC but KC does not want to pay the FA market price so KC could be relying on Gordon's desire to stay in hopes he will eventually accept a "home town" discount. I really think the Sox level of interest has been over blown by the local media. It's not just local media. It's national writers saying Sox are interested. Edited December 27, 2015 by WhiteSoxLifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 26, 2015 -> 07:08 PM) Then it also made no sense for them to acquire several guys who pencil in as a FA in 2 seasons. Because if they're going to acquire that guy, they need to win the division this year, and the FA market next year doesn't set them up to fill in any holes that develop. If they can't field a competitive team this year (and they can't), then that move again sets them up for continued long-term failure. I agree the Sox need to acquire the big bat this season. Even with Frazier and Lawrie we may be more competitive BUT they need that big bat now to win in 2016! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 27, 2015 -> 06:29 PM) It's not just local media. It's national writers saying Sox are interested. for me, and pls don't take this wrong, but i enjoy all the clatter of these so-called insight or rumors. it stimulates conversation. i enjoy reading all pov on anything to do with baseball, esp sox baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 It really wouldn't be considered a negotiation if there was one offer take it or leave it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 27, 2015 -> 11:51 AM) Not saying it's true, but if the Sox offer was straight up rejected and that's the end of the negotiations, then the Sox were likely just driving up the price all along. If true and it is down to the big two, I sure hope that Sox extra aggressive on either Upton or Cespedes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 27, 2015 -> 12:29 PM) It's not just local media. It's national writers saying Sox are interested. Not sure I follow you. I never said the Sox weren't interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) I just don't relish the idea of the Tigers getting Cespedes or Upton. That lineup would be really scary, if VMart comes back healthy: Iglesias Kinsler M. Cabrera V. Martinez Cespedes/Upton J. D. Martinez Castellanos Maybin McCann They could have 4 guys, 3 through 6, in the lineup, each drive in around 100 runs. The Sox lineup without that big bat, would look pretty weak, by comparison. Just get past Abreu and Frazier, and the opposition could breeze through the rest of the line up. However, put Cespedes or Upton in the Sox lineup, especially if the Tigers don't add a big bat, and the picture is entirely different. Edited December 27, 2015 by Lillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdiego Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Meh, that tweet is BS. Even if Gordon was just using the Sox to up the KC offer, he wouldn't just flat out reject the Sox. He would negotiate a higher offer and see if KC can match it or up their offer to keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 So, going through the thread, essentially nothing has changed in 3 days but posters have decided the sox lost out on all three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 27, 2015 -> 02:20 PM) I just don't relish the idea of the Tigers getting Cespedes or Upton. That lineup would be really scary, if VMart comes back healthy: Iglesias Kinsler M. Cabrera V. Martinez Cespedes/Upton J. D. Martinez Castellanos Maybin McCann They could have 4 guys, 3 through 6, in the lineup, each drive in around 100 runs. The Sox lineup without that big bat, would look pretty weak, by comparison. Just get past Abreu and Frazier, and the opposition could breeze through the rest of the line up. However, put Cespedes or Upton in the Sox lineup, especially if the Tigers don't add a big bat, and the picture is entirely different. http://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tige...cchia/77925514/ It's all going to come down to Verlander and Sanchez, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 27, 2015 -> 02:33 PM) So, going through the thread, essentially nothing has changed in 3 days but posters have decided the sox lost out on all three. Yep. This is what happens during the holidays when teams essentially go lights out with negotiations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhay99 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 QUOTE (Sockin @ Dec 27, 2015 -> 12:36 PM) FWIW this guy said Gordon rejected the Sox offer. https://twitter.com/DowellTeam/status/681147962282512384 We are using realtors as sources in this thread now? Getting sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Don't really see anyone saying sox have lost out on all 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 The poster said for what it's worth. Relax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Personally I don't care what some realtor says, IMO we are in for the big three until they decide to put pen to paper and sign elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhay99 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 27, 2015 -> 04:55 PM) The poster said for what it's worth. Relax. I know a plumber who works in Chicago that said Gordon likes the Sox offer. For what it's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian26 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) FWIW this guy said Gordon rejected the Sox offer. https://twitter.com/DowellTeam/status/681147962282512384 The guy's credibility takes a hit when his very next tweet says that "farts prevent cancer": https://twitter.com/DowellTeam/status/681190663312936960 Edited December 28, 2015 by Brian26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 He rejected an offer that may have not been made yet? Yeah ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Tomorrow things should pick back up. Until I start reading info from people who are either raBBit, Bucket, or any paid writer, I won't believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) And to the posters defense we don't know the guy on Twitter from shinola, he very we'll could be Gordon's real estate Agent. Who knows but I'm not going to get worked up until we know that he has signed elsewhere. But after a long weekend of thinking it probably hinders our chances a little since he had basically 5 days to think, if the offer was indeed made. Which I doubt seeing Bucket said we would make an offer Monday. I just hope we are aggressively pursuing all three fronts, at the very least. I'll be disappointed if we are unable to sign atleast one of the three with how long the market has dragged out. Edited December 28, 2015 by Frank_Thomas35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 28, 2015 -> 12:51 AM) And to the posters defense we don't know the guy on Twitter from shinola, he very we'll could be Gordon's real estate Agent. Who knows but I'm not going to get worked up until we know that he has signed elsewhere. But after a long weekend of thinking it probably hinders our chances a little since he had basically 5 days to think, if the offer was indeed made. Which I doubt seeing Bucket said we would make an offer Monday. I just hope we are aggressively pursuing all three fronts, at the very least. I'll be disappointed if we are unable to sign atleast one of the three with how long the market has dragged out. same here, i just hope it isn't nothing but lip service ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Supposedly the Cardinals are posturing that they prefer the trade route (for the moment), specifically one of the three Rockies' outfielders (CarGo/Blackmon/Dickerson). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 28, 2015 -> 02:31 AM) Supposedly the Cardinals are posturing that they prefer the trade route (for the moment), specifically one of the three Rockies' outfielders (CarGo/Blackmon/Dickerson). the cards have the assets to pull it off. dang, i wonder if they would like melky??? i really like 3 of their minors who are positional players and none in the top 5.... b/c those players are the ones that are usually untouchables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Tomorrow is the day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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