Bob Sacamano Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 08:25 AM) There is nothing good about Gordon going back to K.C. Reduces the supply of impact OFs, doesn't impact the demand for them (if you assume the Royals were all or nothing on Alex), & makes a key divisional competitor stronger. If Upton is a long-shot, then the Sox can't keep dicking around on Cespedes. I also would have liked Gordon going to a team that didn't already give up its first round pick as well increasing our comp pick. Edited January 6, 2016 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 02:24 PM) Wow this dude might end up calling this after all. Never would have thought AG would be first. So if this is true it's sh** or get off the pot time for the sox. Now there'll be a whole lot of other teams in on Cespedes, who if the Gordon gets 4/$70, would have to get more than a 3 year deal. I'm preparing to be disappointed. Given the KC guy's connections, it seemed all along he had some pretty good inside information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 08:25 AM) There is nothing good about Gordon going back to K.C. Reduces the supply of impact OFs, doesn't impact the demand for them (if you assume the Royals were all or nothing on Alex), & makes a key divisional competitor stronger. If Upton is a long-shot, then the Sox can't keep dicking around on Cespedes. Agreed, i don't get the excitement we missed out on him. Gordon was ultimately the best fit for this team. My first choice the whole time has been Cespedes but I don't doubt the significance of one of our top targets are off the board first. This was the guy who probably costs the least in terms of money and years. This also starts the clock on Cespedes and Upton and increases the chances of another team blinking first and comitting the money and years that we won't. We needed the market to continue to break our way I think to have a chance at one of the big three. Chris Davis signing first would have been a great first step, how this affects our chances is yet to be seen but my confidence level is way down at the possibilityof getting Cespedes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 08:32 AM) Given the KC guy's connections, it seemed all along he had some pretty good inside information. I guess. It seemed for most of the past few weeks after he predicted it would happen before Xmas eve his credibility was shot a bit. But he held strong to the fact KC would get his guy. Now lots hope these random Twitter dudes that tweeted about Cespedes and us are right too lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Chris Davis signing with Baltimore would make things fall into place pretty well for us (unless more teams jumped in). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 12:40 AM) FWIW this Royal Clubhouse guy says the Gordon contract will be no where near $80 million... I think that would only help us but who knows. As o said earlier I'm starting to significantly doubt we end up with any of the three. I just think we are waiting too long for the market to come to us instead of setting the market by getting creative and aggressive with one of the three. We shall see in the next week or two. Or maybe starting tomorrow if KC clubhouse is right and KC signs Gordon tomorrow. I was thinking the same thing this morning. I just have that bad feeling that bad news is coming. I sure hope I am wrong, also, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The Royals have reached agreement on a deal that will bring star left fielder Alex Gordon back to Kansas City, MLB.com’s Jeffrey Flanagan reports on Twitter. An official announcement could come later today, assuming Gordon passes his physical. Per MLBTR This Alex Gordon ballgame is Ovah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 08:40 AM) The Royals have reached agreement on a deal that will bring star left fielder Alex Gordon back to Kansas City, MLB.com’s Jeffrey Flanagan reports on Twitter. An official announcement could come later today, assuming Gordon passes his physical. Per MLBTR This Alex Gordon ballgame is Ovah That sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 08:40 AM) The Royals have reached agreement on a deal that will bring star left fielder Alex Gordon back to Kansas City, MLB.com’s Jeffrey Flanagan reports on Twitter. An official announcement could come later today, assuming Gordon passes his physical. Per MLBTR This Alex Gordon ballgame is Ovah Next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Well, I never did want him, but it would be nice to get Cespedes now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 03:43 PM) That sucks Doesn't sound like he ever had real interest in going elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 08:44 AM) Doesn't sound like he ever had real interest in going elsewhere Not sure who was using who...if the Sox were engaging Gordon to drive up the price for KC or if Gordon was just flirting with the Sox to get more from KC... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Flanagan's a beat writer for the KC Star, fwiw. Now you've got Detroit, SFG, StL, Washington, possibly Boston, the Orioles and Angels all theoretically interested in Cespedes. Who caves first, and what does that leave for Upton? Edited January 6, 2016 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 What scares me the most is Rabbit has basically heard nothing on the Cespedes front. With the exception of some Twitter trolls we haven't really heard much directly about us and Cespedes, other than Abreu was recruiting. I've already started to prepare mentally that we are going to strike out. But I think this board is going to be pretty disappointed if we end up empty handed after this long wait. It would be refreshing to see the sox get serious with Cespedes and get something done. It is Wednesday after all.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3GamesToLove Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Damn. That's not a bad price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 if Gordon signs for 4year/70mil, where does that price Cespedes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 As a baseball fan, I like when players stay with their teams. So if he didn't come to the Sox, I'm glad he's back with KC. Moving on.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3GamesToLove Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Give Cespedes a five or six year deal with an opt-out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 08:43 AM) Well, I never did want him, but it would be nice to get Cespedes now IMO, has to happen by the end of this week. A deal with Upton or Cespedes has to be reached asap so other teams don't begin to come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 08:47 AM) Flanagan's a beat writer for the KC Star, fwiw. Now you've got Detroit, SFG, StL, Washington, possibly Boston, the Orioles and Angels all theoretically interested in Cespedes. This is why I think we are in trouble. Things just got serious for a whole bunch of teams, whether they were in on Gordon or not. This not only set the market but has now sped things up for the Of market. I wouldn't be surprised to see another couple guys signed before the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I have zero confidence now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Got a b/r update saying contract is believed to be 4 years in the low $70 million range. Props to royals clubhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 03:49 PM) IMO, has to happen by the end of this week. A deal with Upton or Cespedes has to be reached asap so other teams don't begin to come in. I honestly believe getting Span and a starting pitcher might be the optimal solution. Really just don't want the Sox to settle for Parra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 08:48 AM) if Gordon signs for 4year/70mil, where does that price Cespedes? 5/100 would be m guess. +/- on the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 08:47 AM) Damn. That's not a bad price. About $18 million a year. At the very least, the White Sox made the Royals pay more than they were hoping. It would be disappointing if they don't get any of the 3, but reality says if they get a guy like Austin Jackson for a good price, they still improve. It doesn't make as big of a PR splash, but on the field, helps the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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