Buehrle>Wood Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/peyton-mann...4b0b958f6599440 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 No names would shock me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 QUOTE (spiderman @ Dec 26, 2015 -> 09:21 PM) No names would shock me. Verily. Why the lack of NBAers anytime something like this comes around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Oh boy. This could be pretty ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Peyton "allegedly" did it after that serious neck surgery though. Not gonna diminish his legacy whatsoever though. HGH in football is nothing like baseball. Plenty of guys are in the Football Hall of Fame who took PEDs. Hell, the Seahawks won the Super Bowl a couple of years ago with half their players roided up. I'd be more nervous if I were Ryan Howard and Ryan Zimmerman if it's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) Could put the Nats in the market for another bat...as a hedge against a possible Zimmerman suspension. Y. Gallardo and Taylor Teagarden are supposedly both on the Al-Jazeera list as well aaccording to Jon Morosi. https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=chris+cotillo Edited December 27, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 27, 2015 -> 09:49 AM) Could put the Nats in the market for another bat...as a hedge against a possible Zimmerman suspension. Y. Gallardo and Taylor Teagarden are supposedly both on the Al-Jazeera list as well aaccording to Jon Morosi. https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=chris+cotillo this is an interesting turn of events.....i wonder if another series of blood test will be done or can the org ask for blood test for their players. does anyone know how long ped can stay in the systems??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 can this be believe that one media outlet knows this and no one else??? i am not disputing this b/c well it is the Al-Jazeera and its network and their known media connections to extremist of religious backing. i am question if it can be believed. what will baseball do next??? they mention a list, is that list been posted??? side bar question, do the fa's go thru a blood test when they sign a contract??? we all know they go thru a physical, but does that mean a blood test as well?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Taylor Teagarten is due a refund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 27, 2015 -> 02:09 PM) Taylor Teagarten is due a refund. oh, that is too funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 27, 2015 -> 05:50 AM) can this be believe that one media outlet knows this and no one else??? i am not disputing this b/c well it is the Al-Jazeera and its network and their known media connections to extremist of religious backing. i am question if it can be believed. what will baseball do next??? they mention a list, is that list been posted??? side bar question, do the fa's go thru a blood test when they sign a contract??? we all know they go thru a physical, but does that mean a blood test as well?? I didn't think they had a good HgH test in the last collective bargaining agreement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxsoxsoxsox Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 27, 2015 -> 06:50 AM) can this be believe that one media outlet knows this and no one else??? what will baseball do next??? they mention a list, is that list been posted??? I found the documentary interesting. Taylor Teagarden appears on camera and incriminates himself, then goes on to talk about how owners didn't want drug testing during the steroid era. Eddie Dominguez also said it was made clear to him that he was forced on baseball. So it's kind of a hypocrisy with owners. I doubt much will come of it, except the little fish like Teargarden being caught. Edited December 27, 2015 by buhbuhburrrrlz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Gallardo was all set to receive $40-50 million for three years...similar to Iwakuma's deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Dec 27, 2015 -> 02:31 PM) I found the documentary interesting. Taylor Teagarden appears on camera and incriminates himself, then goes on to talk about how owners didn't want drug testing during the steroid era. Eddie Dominguez also said it was made clear to him that he was forced on baseball. So it's kind of a hypocrisy with owners. I doubt much will come of it, except the little fish like Teargarden being caught. excellent point on the hypocrisy of anything esp the owners. one only has to look no further than one friends, i hate to say this, but we are in some way hypocrites, i truly mean not to offend, but this more of a philosophical discussion, i know, but it is the truth. just as the owners of any sports, wants only the see things in a pragmatic way, saying that they are against this or that, mostly in the ped and illegal activities... they can point to that point and say see we as the owners are concern. but really avoiding the intellectual side any any argument or study. only doing what is enuf. but on the flip side, those athletes and the union are in this as well and if not just as guilty, they are or should be more guilty.... b/c of the health factors of the athletes when they get older. it is really stupid all around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 If Zim gets suspended, it makes the Nats a clear landing spot for LaRoche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 27, 2015 -> 03:05 PM) If Zim gets suspended, it makes the Nats a clear landing spot for LaRoche i love your your thinking, but do you really think that mlb does anything quickly???? they will drag their heals and this will take at least a yr .... if it is true. Edited December 27, 2015 by LDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) Uh, ya. Let's not go jumping to conclusions just yet. This is Al-Jazeera after all. I think this quote below is the important thing to take note of. "None of the three baseball players have ever been suspended for PED use or failed any known drug tests. It is yet unknown how MLB or the NFL may respond to this documentary, if at all, though if the allegations are proven, Howard, Zimmerman and Teagarden would presumably be subject to the 80-game suspension given to the first-time offenders of MLB’s drug policy." Edited December 27, 2015 by BlackSox13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I'm sure the Nats would rather go with Alvarez or Carter or trade for someone else than trade for LaRoche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 27, 2015 -> 05:07 PM) Uh, ya. Let's not go jumping to conclusions just yet. This is Al-Jazeera after all. I think this quote below is the important thing to take note of. "None of the three baseball players have ever been suspended for PED use or failed any known drug tests. It is yet unknown how MLB or the NFL may respond to this documentary, if at all, though if the allegations are proven, Howard, Zimmerman and Teagarden would presumably be subject to the 80-game suspension given to the first-time offenders of MLB’s drug policy." but here is the point, if some media group is claiming this, should any sport league should jump to a league wide crucifixion, where is the due process, where is the defense. even if it may be true, their is due diligence in a proper defense and knowing of the known evidence., there is no short cuts in something like this and like a past case of a chi sports person, it is stupid to post names without proof. really stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 27, 2015 -> 10:37 AM) but here is the point, if some media group is claiming this, should any sport league should jump to a league wide crucifixion, where is the due process, where is the defense. No, the MLB is not going to jump to a league wide Crucifixion over allegations from Al-Jazeera. Let's not go overboard. The MLB will investigate the allegations but if there is no proof to any of this then the MLB will simply move on. The MLB already tests players from marijuana to HGH and everything in-between. Again, this is Al-Jazeera were talking about so at this point I take the allegations with a grain of salt and laugh it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 Al-Jazeera is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 27, 2015 -> 05:01 PM) No, the MLB is not going to jump to a league wide Crucifixion over allegations from Al-Jazeera. Let's not go overboard. The MLB will investigate the allegations but if there is no proof to any of this then the MLB will simply move on. The MLB already tests players from marijuana to HGH and everything in-between. Again, this is Al-Jazeera were talking about so at this point I take the allegations with a grain of salt and laugh it off. i know, i was being ironical... with that statement. and with ref to Al-Jazeera, i know with american sports media news, the US citizens are afforded a certain amount of media protection in what is commonly known as moral ethics and moral reasoning that is known thru out the whole media industry. Edited December 27, 2015 by LDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Dec 27, 2015 -> 12:11 AM) Verily. Why the lack of NBAers anytime something like this comes around? The sport of basketball doesn't really lend itself to needing the PEDs. They don't need the pure strength of an NFL linemean. They don't need the pure speed and distance of a 100, 200 meter runner. They don't need the endurance of a cyclist. They don't need the strength to hit a ball 400 feet for homeruns. It may help with some performance but nothing real specific in basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 27, 2015 -> 12:56 AM) Peyton "allegedly" did it after that serious neck surgery though. Not gonna diminish his legacy whatsoever though. HGH in football is nothing like baseball. Plenty of guys are in the Football Hall of Fame who took PEDs. Hell, the Seahawks won the Super Bowl a couple of years ago with half their players roided up. I'd be more nervous if I were Ryan Howard and Ryan Zimmerman if it's true. Football and track are the two sports that really lend themselves to PEDs. They are always going to come up with new designer PEDs that no one knows to test for. The IOC has come up with a new baseline test that is the most promising. It tests for any changes, regardless of the source. i still think due to the PEDs in the NFL, the CTE and concussion issue has more to do with the combination with the PEDs than contact alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 27, 2015 -> 05:15 PM) Football and track are the two sports that really lend themselves to PEDs. They are always going to come up with new designer PEDs that no one knows to test for. The IOC has come up with a new baseline test that is the most promising. It tests for any changes, regardless of the source. i still think due to the PEDs in the NFL, the CTE and concussion issue has more to do with the combination with the PEDs than contact alone. interesting thing there. i have no medical background, but since my godson got hurt and was in the ucla medical center for a possible link of that, i been reading. i know, i am nothing but a snoop. but i think from a lame man term it also has a little thing to a control violence.... very much like what is called conditioning. this was done with animals to be conditions for violence.... but what ever happen to those creatures after the treatment / experiment was done?? how was the creature in later life??? an unknown element was talked about with the great joe lewis, but no one was able to distinguish it or call it or just said he broke down.... this is me and my disclaimer is i do not know crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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